Smaller Gyms

Date: Tue Dec 12 1:40 PM, 2006

RE: Smaller Gyms

Date: Tue Dec 12 1:40 PM, 2006

that was meant to say *YOU can definately tell

Date: Tue Dec 12 1:47 PM, 2006

I think we are possibly combining the ideas of small/large gym with new/old gym.

Small to me would be 1 to possibly 3 teams.
Medium would be 3 to possibly 7/8 teams.
Large would be 9+ teams

New would be 3 to 5 years old.
Established would be 5 to 7/8 years.
Old would be 8+ years. (even though I don't like the word old, I can't think of a better one at the moment)

Just what I think.

Also, lots of gyms aren't "run or coached" by their owners. The people who coach as well as run their gyms are crazy in my book. They have such HUGE responsibilities and have to have superhuman qualities. If your coach runs your gym, be nice to them. You have NO IDEA what they have to go thru. Better yet, volunteer!!!!! Every little thing you do is one less thing they have to worry about!

OC Mom

Date: Tue Dec 12 1:50 PM, 2006

My favorite smaller gyms are Athletic Perfection, Royals, Cheer Xplosion, Airborne, and Cheer Divas. They all have creative routines and are always great competition to go against.

Date: Tue Dec 12 1:53 PM, 2006

Where has California Spirit been? I see them mentioned, but they don't seem to be at any of the other competitions we've seen on this board so far. I liked their Senior team's dance.

Date: Tue Dec 12 2:02 PM, 2006

Our next competition is Cheersport in Stockton and then COA. Thanks for all the compliments on the routine. We are making changes and hopefully you will enjoy the teams even more. good luck to everyone else in Nor Cal =)

Date: Tue Dec 12 2:13 PM, 2006

My Personal Opinin Only wrote:

I think we are possibly combining the ideas of small/large gym with new/old gym.

Small to me would be 1 to possibly 3 teams.
Medium would be 3 to possibly 7/8 teams.
Large would be 9+ teams

New would be 3 to 5 years old.
Established would be 5 to 7/8 years.
Old would be 8+ years. (even though I don't like the word old, I can't think of a better one at the moment)

Just what I think.

Also, lots of gyms aren't "run or coached" by their owners. The people who coach as well as run their gyms are crazy in my book. They have such HUGE responsibilities and have to have superhuman qualities. If your coach runs your gym, be nice to them. You have NO IDEA what they have to go thru. Better yet, volunteer!!!!! Every little thing you do is one less thing they have to worry about!

OC Mom

Looks like several of the teams mentioned in this thread are not small gyms. If this is the definition agreed upon then there are only a few teams reminding:

720
Airborne
Motions
Pryamids
Rebels
University Cheer Force

GO SMALL GYMS!!!!

Date: Tue Dec 12 2:15 PM, 2006

Then we would be medium. We have 5 teams.

Date: Tue Dec 12 2:16 PM, 2006

Maybe I read that last post wrong... how is Pyramids a small gym?? Motions and 720, yes.

Date: Tue Dec 12 2:18 PM, 2006

You guys are so funny. I was just saying what I was thinking. Maybe someone would have a better breakdown that I had?? I am thinking that even though Motions and 720 are in themselves small gyms, they are part of a larger company. In in that, I would think that would make them large overall. What do you think?

OC Mom

Date: Tue Dec 12 2:21 PM, 2006

I think Athletic Perfection and Cheer Xplosion have four teams, so they would be medium I guess. Royals has quite a few I think. Are we including dance? I wonder if a lot of gyms that have dance and cheer have girls who do both. I didn't know Airborne had five teams. Good luck to you guys in Vegas!

Date: Tue Dec 12 2:30 PM, 2006

I see 720 and Motions being small due to the number of teams they have, not who owns them. The advantage of true "medium" or "large" gyms is the number of kids you have to create teams that have all members of a team at a specific skill level. When you are small you usually have a team that the skill levels can range from level 2-5. A small gym typically will also not have true age appropriate teams, meaning they have to put Youth age member on sr team because they might have advanced skills.

Motions and 720 don't get to draw on talent pool of kids from Pyramids. So I see Pyramids as large and 720 and Motions as small "gyms".

Date: Tue Dec 12 2:31 PM, 2006

Airborne and Athletic Perfection are my favorites.

Date: Tue Dec 12 2:41 PM, 2006

narrowing down the field wrote:

My Personal Opinin Only wrote:

I think we are possibly combining the ideas of small/large gym with new/old gym.

Small to me would be 1 to possibly 3 teams.
Medium would be 3 to possibly 7/8 teams.
Large would be 9+ teams

New would be 3 to 5 years old.
Established would be 5 to 7/8 years.
Old would be 8+ years. (even though I don't like the word old, I can't think of a better one at the moment)

Just what I think.

Also, lots of gyms aren't "run or coached" by their owners. The people who coach as well as run their gyms are crazy in my book. They have such HUGE responsibilities and have to have superhuman qualities. If your coach runs your gym, be nice to them. You have NO IDEA what they have to go thru. Better yet, volunteer!!!!! Every little thing you do is one less thing they have to worry about!

OC Mom

Looks like several of the teams mentioned in this thread are not small gyms. If this is the definition agreed upon then there are only a few teams reminding:

720
Airborne
Motions
Pryamids
Rebels
University Cheer Force

GO SMALL GYMS!!!!

And roseville cheer stars

they have 4 cheer teams and 4 dance teams i think

Date: Tue Dec 12 3:02 PM, 2006

That is what is so impressive about Motions -- they are a small gym and look how far they went last year. By the looks of things, they have a great chance of having another awesome season.

Date: Tue Dec 12 3:07 PM, 2006

I agree I think Motions is great. I loved thier routine last year and they looked really good on the video from GSSA. Good Luck Motions.

Date: Tue Dec 12 3:29 PM, 2006

opinion wrote:

I see 720 and Motions being small due to the number of teams they have, not who owns them. The advantage of true "medium" or "large" gyms is the number of kids you have to create teams that have all members of a team at a specific skill level. When you are small you usually have a team that the skill levels can range from level 2-5. A small gym typically will also not have true age appropriate teams, meaning they have to put Youth age member on sr team because they might have advanced skills.

Motions and 720 don't get to draw on talent pool of kids from Pyramids. So I see Pyramids as large and 720 and Motions as small "gyms".

I would categorize the cheergym teams together and as a LARGE gym. I recall a similar post last year where pulling talent from all of the cheergyms teams to create the All American was being debated. Doesn't make sense to say all the cheergyms team are under one ownership when creating the All American team, but not a consideration when classifying the gyms size.

Date: Tue Dec 12 3:41 PM, 2006

Gym Size wrote:

opinion wrote:

I see 720 and Motions being small due to the number of teams they have, not who owns them. The advantage of true "medium" or "large" gyms is the number of kids you have to create teams that have all members of a team at a specific skill level. When you are small you usually have a team that the skill levels can range from level 2-5. A small gym typically will also not have true age appropriate teams, meaning they have to put Youth age member on sr team because they might have advanced skills.

Motions and 720 don't get to draw on talent pool of kids from Pyramids. So I see Pyramids as large and 720 and Motions as small "gyms".

I would categorize the cheergym teams together and as a LARGE gym. I recall a similar post last year where pulling talent from all of the cheergyms teams to create the All American was being debated. Doesn't make sense to say all the cheergyms team are under one ownership when creating the All American team, but not a consideration when classifying the gyms size.

I agree, they are ONE program, different names! They are large

Date: Tue Dec 12 3:58 PM, 2006

I disagree. They are SEPARATE gyms/locations! They are small.

Does anyone want to take the middle road and argue the medium size arguement? This could go on for days.

No, they are small. No they are large. No, they are medium. No, I said they are small, so they are SMALL! End. No, I said they are LARGE, so they are large! End of story...I love this....

Date: Tue Dec 12 4:31 PM, 2006

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe folks from cheergyms are the ones that remind some of us from time to time that they are indeed separate gyms (with separate owners). Let's hear from them again, they can resolve this debate.

Or we could just go on and on and on...

But think about it, even if they're considered one large gym, location-wise it's not the same as one large gym in the same area. Motions and Pyramids are in two separate cities that are not close enough where you'll have many from one commuting to the other. I could be wrong but I'm guessing those on Motions live closer to the Motions gym, and not near where the Pyramids gym is located.