Once again you people on this message board are creating drama over things you don't have any power over........ Rules are Rules and California Allstars has always abided by the RULES!!!!!!! How about all the college kids that are on every coed team in the country......... or maybe alittle closer to home.. how about all the Sac State girls that were on Power...... Every one of these programs has read the rules and the rules are very specific. Just go to the gym and practice harder and then you won't have so much time to worry about others...... I agree it is wrong if people are cheating by being to old but unless the team is breaking the actual RULE your little opinion DOES NOT MATTER!!!!!!

Lastly, the programs that have athletes that come home to compete trained those athletes and that is the reason they are going to the top schools in the country. Stop Hating....... Once again every Large Coed Team in the Country has kids on their team that are enrolled in college courses. Kentucy Elite, Georgia, Top Gun, Cheer Athletics, California Allstars, Ace, Celebrity, South Jersey Storm and so on and so forth................... Get over it!!!!! If the rules change then these programs will change until then just enjoy the show!!!!!

I'm not with either of these programs, but I'm wondering if the situations might be different. Are the Sac State girls there year round, competing with the team all season long? Or do they compete with one gym then, go and compete for another allstar gym later on. The UofL kids are there for 1 competition, fly back to Louisville and then finish the season with Gymtime. There's a big difference in the situation. Just cause there's no rule against it doesn't make it right. If you were to spike your competitors oj with laxative before a competition, would that be ok? It's sure nothing saying you can't in the rulebook. USASF can't possibly list every example of unethical behavior in their rules and shouldn't have to.

Just because these atheletes were trained by CA is not really an excuse. Otherwise, those same atheletes should be able to help out their previous gyms that trained them before they came to CA allstars.

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Frankly I think they should raise the age. Make senoir divisions 16 and up like the olympic's and other sports world championships. There is no age ceiling or as you call it aging out in any olympic sport. Yes for the younger there is a junior olympic,s and world championships. Allstar cheer has got to get away form this high school age and grade mentality! I think only then will allstar cheer be truly considered a sport by all.

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I seriously doubt that would change how people outside of cheer would feel about the sport. Either you think its a sport or you don't. A change like that might affect how some things are done within the sport, but no big change to the general public's perception would come about.

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......... or maybe alittle closer to home.. how about all the Sac State girls that were on Power......

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This reminds me of what my mom used to always tell me when I was growing up, "so if the Power girls jumped off a bridge, would you do that to?"
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Good luck to those of you going to Vegas this weekend!

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To insinuate that Power did somthing that was not within the rules is so off base it is crazy. Stephanie Cook and Kristy Randall were on SAC STATE and Power last year ( girls- we miss you so much, Hope you are having a great time at Morehead)
They attended all practices and competed at EVERY competition. To insinuate that they were older or just showed up for comps is WRONG. They were the leaders of that team and are missed so much.

People- it is not breaking the rules if you have people that are in college but within the age guideline. Know the rules and use them to help your program. On the flip side please do not insinuate that programs that do follow the rules are doing anything that is not honest.

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Good times wrote:

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California Allstars wrote:

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......... or maybe alittle closer to home.. how about all the Sac State girls that were on Power......

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This reminds me of what my mom used to always tell me when I was growing up, "so if the Power girls jumped off a bridge, would you do that to?"
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Good luck to those of you going to Vegas this weekend!

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To insinuate that Power did somthing that was not within the rules is so off base it is crazy. Stephanie Cook and Kristy Randall were on SAC STATE and Power last year ( girls- we miss you so much, Hope you are having a great time at Morehead)
They attended all practices and competed at EVERY competition. To insinuate that they were older or just showed up for comps is WRONG. They were the leaders of that team and are missed so much.

People- it is not breaking the rules if you have people that are in college but within the age guideline. Know the rules and use them to help your program. On the flip side please do not insinuate that programs that do follow the rules are doing anything that is not honest.

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That was the point of my post. The fact that the Power girls were on Sac state meant they were local and a part of the team year round. I have no problem with that. On the other hand, we know the UofL cheerleaders are not competing with California year round and we also know that some, if not all of those cheerleaders that fly back to do Calfornia's routine for American Grand will show up at Worlds and/or NCA with Gymtime, that is a totally different story.

Way to deflect the convo to topic California allstars

Power had girls that were 19 and in college on their team? Interesting.

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Power had girls that were 19 and in college on their team? Interesting.

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They had to be 18 by August so yes they could be 19 for most of the season. Thanks for the clarification. You are tons of help....

FYI- For this years season, you need to be 18 by May 31.

If you want to fully eduacate yourself, go to www.usasf.net. You can read ALL of the rules that gyms have to follow. Enjoy

being 19 BEFORE August 19th was not in the rules. I am fully educated regarding the USASF rules. Perhaps you shoud check the ages of team members better.