Ultimate State

Date: Sat Nov 11 9:58 PM, 2006

RE: Ultimate State

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:01 PM, 2006

Agreed with the above statement. I feel like pushing your kids to achieve great things is one thing but putting a team in level 4 with only 3 layouts is not that smart.

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:03 PM, 2006

If they performed like this, I'd keep them off these boards. Why would they want or need to come on here get a feel of how they did? If they want honesty fine but if they want more smoke blown up their rear ends, then stay away. I think that you are trying to get a feel of how they did and don't like the comments.

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:06 PM, 2006

Can we get off the gossip train about NCE. Seriously leave them ALONE. They do their thing and it looks good. I thought they looked good and im a coach. They have style and really good routines. I wish for their sake, that they come and kick the butts of the teams who talk all this smack about them. So what boys left to go to California All Stars. Yes CA is good but they have messed up PLENTY of times, including NCA and Worlds. Nobody is perfect, so just back off and let them be.

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:08 PM, 2006

While I think the comments are brutally honest, I don't think they're out of line. I agree that they don't need smoke blown up their tails. No one wants that.

Aside from all of the performance-related comments, I'd say they need to get their kids focused. If they spent half as much time concentrating on themselves and their own routines as they do making fun of other teams, their routines, and their uniforms (yes girls, I was in your section today), they might actually make some progress. It seems that after all the talk we heard this summer about them turning over a new leaf attitude-wise, old habits die hard.

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:12 PM, 2006

... wrote:

Well there coach should do wats best for them and put them in the right divisions for their talent level...

Come on if you really thought it was that important you would bring it up with their coaches.

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:15 PM, 2006

One comment.... CA at least went to Worlds. Sm Sr. 4th. Enough said.

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:18 PM, 2006

I think wrote:

While I think the comments are brutally honest, I don't think they're out of line. I agree that they don't need smoke blown up their tails. No one wants that.

Aside from all of the performance-related comments, I'd say they need to get their kids focused. If they spent half as much time concentrating on themselves and their own routines as they do making fun of other teams, their routines, and their uniforms (yes girls, I was in your section today), they might actually make some progress. It seems that after all the talk we heard this summer about them turning over a new leaf attitude-wise, old habits die hard.

And since nce is the ONLY program out there that laughs at other teams and that sort of thing...

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:19 PM, 2006

enough wrote:

No way wrote:

NCE?? wrote:

Can they be competitive against the likes of Cheerforce or California Allstars.

Without some sort of miracle, not this year. The talent is just not there, and the kids that are talented that are left are just not clutch performers. They choke, fall, bail out of stunts and make other crucial mistakes.

Why would you post something like this before they compete again tomorow? Even if all this is true or not you have to realise the athletes on these teams will come home tonight and probly go on these boards to get a feel for how they did and see this, would you want your son/daughter reading this before they have another day to compete?

Me Personally, I would take all this and use it PERFORM THE HELL out of my routine tomorrow. If you can't stand the heat, get off the mat. Like, in all honesty people are always going to be talking about other teams and blah blah blah (i'm not saying it's right, but it's what's going to happen.) take all the crap that other people say about you. . . and make it into SOMETHING AWSOME!

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:24 PM, 2006

... wrote:

Well there coach should do wats best for them and put them in the right divisions for their talent level...

well you should keep your two cence out of this. if he thinks they should be in that division then so be it. tumbling is not the only thing a team needs to be in a certain division. all stunts were up to par if you didnt notice.. its the beginning of the season come on.

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:27 PM, 2006

so are u saying if a team had level 5 tumbling but could barely do a stretch full down then they should still compete level 5 haha goodluck

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:28 PM, 2006

Chau-Mein wrote:

The reason why a lot of NCE's routines didn't have a dance section was that Roy didn't get a chance to videotape, learn, and teach them someone else's dance just yet; the way he does with everything else his program has. Not trying to be mean, just truthful, and offering my two cents.

can you tell me which teams he has copied dances from??

what exactly has he stole from other routines..
i havent seen it..

im pretty sure you can use whatever you want in your routine.

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:28 PM, 2006

Ok it is the beginning of the season (by the ways its cents not cence) but this is NCE's 3rd competition, they should be more seasoned performing their routine then other teams who have not yet competed.

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:29 PM, 2006

lol wrote:

so are u saying if a team had level 5 tumbling but could barely do a stretch full down then they should still compete level 5 haha goodluck

im saying i think stunts are a bigger factor in a routine then tumbling is.. and thats why they are level 5.

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:30 PM, 2006

... wrote:

... wrote:

Well there coach should do wats best for them and put them in the right divisions for their talent level...

well you should keep your two cence out of this. if he thinks they should be in that division then so be it. tumbling is not the only thing a team needs to be in a certain division. all stunts were up to par if you didnt notice.. its the beginning of the season come on.

I sure hope your not talking about their coed stunts. Because if i do reacll correctly i remember lots of shaky stunts and timing was off and flyers giving up half way though.

And they've been to two other comps. before this one! Really shouldn't that be enough time to finish a routine and what not. Granted i know there's always going to be little things, i'll give them that, but it just seems to me, its always "half baked" with them.

I will admit that i liked their ending stunt thing. Not sure if that was their pyramid or what, whatever it was, i thought it was creative

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:31 PM, 2006

That is a very good point!

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:31 PM, 2006

You can take stunts and little tumbling nowhere in level 5, that is why it is level 5, it is the most difficult division and to be successful you have to have the whole package, tumbing and stunting!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:32 PM, 2006

i was mostly talking about their level 4 team

and u get scored on both tumbling and stunts so aren't they both important along with the rest of the routine

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:33 PM, 2006

This isn't specific to NCE...but how do you get to this point in the season (November, with 3 comps under your belt) WITHOUT full routines?

Date: Sat Nov 11 10:34 PM, 2006

What? wrote:

This isn't specific to NCE...but how do you get to this point in the season (November, with 3 comps under your belt) WITHOUT full routines?

Something the whole cheer world would love to know.