Rumor

Date: Thu Sep 7 9:35 AM, 2006

Rumor

Date: Thu Sep 7 2:12 PM, 2006

Thanks for asking. Rumors are the worst.

There are no plans to "close" 720. Morton and I are always looking into opening new gyms in new locations as well as closing gyms that aren't growing for whatever reason.

It is impossible to predict now what will happen with any of our gyms 8 months from now. We hope that interest will continue to grow in the areas we occupy now and we will be able to enter new cities such as Antioch, Sacramento, and Santa Rosa.

We'll see.

Danny Kahn
Owner, cheergyms.com

Date: Thu Sep 7 3:47 PM, 2006

will there ever be a cheergyms in the Tracy area or brentwood?

Date: Thu Sep 7 5:29 PM, 2006

will there ever be a gym in the mid peninsula area???

Date: Thu Sep 7 9:41 PM, 2006

COME TO SANTA ROSA! A gym is needed!

Date: Thu Sep 7 9:55 PM, 2006

Seems like they will build gyms in places where there are gyms already. Especially in those cities. Hopefully it works out for them. I think fewer larger gyms than many small gyms, that does not just include cheergyms.com

Date: Thu Sep 7 10:42 PM, 2006

Athletic Perfection is in Tracy, and based on their tryouts they seem to be doing just fine.

Date: Thu Sep 7 10:57 PM, 2006

I think that person meant a cheergyms.com gym... besides we all love AP!!

Date: Thu Sep 7 11:36 PM, 2006

I think the point was AP is in Tracy, is a respectable gym, and it's not clear a cheergyms.com gym would get enough people joining to keep it open, since there's already a place for cheerleaders in that area to go.

Date: Fri Sep 8 1:35 AM, 2006

Oka folks let not turn this into a battle. A question was asked and answered by Danny. I don't think there is anything wrong with a little healthy competition. Even in our neck of the woods.

Date: Fri Sep 8 8:08 AM, 2006

Yes there was a question put on the table, but to me these little suburbs can barely handle the current gyms. Those gyms listed aren't busting out the seams with kids. They are doing fine, not great. To me its a set up for failure. Put them in areas where their is a true demand, or a place with no gym nearby. Just look at the bay area, open and close every other year. Try and put some business behind them and not just emotion.

Date: Fri Sep 8 8:20 AM, 2006

Dannys respone did not mention trying to open a gym in Tracy. Relax people he was just responding to a question.

Date: Fri Sep 8 8:22 AM, 2006

The post about Tracy was to the person who asked about a cheergyms in Tracy. Danny mentioned other cities that already have gyms, so other posts were referring to that. Two different threads, all legit responses.

Date: Fri Sep 8 9:26 AM, 2006

If you think about it..... the bay area is HUGE. San Jose is bigger than San Fransisco in population. So it's not necessarily how many people are in the area, it's the knowlege that cheer is even an option as a sport for kids. It's getting the word out. I would seriously look at schools and their attendance. The bigger the schools, the more kids.

PLUS, you have to look at the economy. Can people AFFORD to pay that kind of money for an extracurricular activity? I know of areas where the population isn't huge but the parents can pay for their cheer up front. Those gyms do well. OC All Stars, California All Stars to name two. Those areas are more affluent than most.

Some things to consider.

Date: Fri Sep 8 10:26 AM, 2006

I was wondering if there has been a study of the success of gyms in particular areas vs. the amount of gyms in that area to choose from. It would make sense that if there are less to choose from, the gyms available have more members to form their teams from, which in turn produces awesome results. Less really is more in this case, and I think in California we have too many choices. I'm happy to see some of these merges, it makes perfect sense. We've seen some awesome talent out there, and the more we pool together, the stronger the teams.

Date: Fri Sep 8 10:26 AM, 2006

The last post is 100% right on. Maybe thats why its harder in California. Its so much money to live here and parents are much tighter with their money versus other places. I think educating people in California on the benefit of extra curricular activieis such as all star cheerleading is a plus.

Date: Fri Sep 8 1:39 PM, 2006

not well known. I am amazed how often I have to explain that my daughter is a competitive cheerleader not high school and what that means. And even than people just don't get it.

I also agree with previous posts talking about the plain cost of allstar cheerleading. I believe cheer programs are more successful in more affluent areas. California is crazy expensive to live as it is. From the tuition, to competition fees, travel expenses, tumbling classes and/or privates it gets scary.

Date: Sat Sep 9 3:17 AM, 2006

yes cheerleading is an expensive activity, but so is everything else you decide to do. traveling, training, etc. its all expected and should be budgeted.

at the same time, alot of businesses/extracurricular activities such as competitive cheerleading attempt to defray costs by implementing fundraising and payment plans, I'm sure if someone really wanted to do something they could find a way to make it happen. Its all about applying oneself to achieve the goal, and this goes for anything you want to do. I know it sounds idealistic, but complaining takes just as much effort and application.

as far as this thread goes, i do agree that more affluent areas do well in any business aspect, but at the same time feel that every business runs itself differently, and to be successful financially must consider the economical/social demographics of an area versus overhead. Successful growth is all dependent on these factors, and its especially rough in the cheer business when so many involved forget that competitive cheerleading is still a business. cheering is a time/financial committment, and i hate to see people on both sides of the spectrum abuse that. on the other side, i have heard of some ridiculous costs for cheerleading and wonder why some gyms cost soo much to train with, while others do not. i guess its different strokes for different folks but yea.

Date: Sat Sep 9 1:49 PM, 2006

A question was asked and answered by the correct person. So... why the continuation on where other gyms should be opened?

Date: Sun Sep 10 7:36 AM, 2006

Because sometimes someone will bring up a topic that will lead to another topic that is just as interesting if not more. What I think is more ridiculous is someone being bothered by it.