cheating at worlds...

Date: Sun Jul 23 9:14 PM, 2006

cheating at worlds...

Date: Sun Jul 23 9:17 PM, 2006

yes! cheating is never ok. especially at something like that. but... if you are going to be penalized.. the competiton wouldnt really be fair.

Date: Sun Jul 23 9:24 PM, 2006

just out of curiousity.... what do you mean by cheating at worlds? No need to mention teams or anything, but how?

Date: Sun Jul 23 9:26 PM, 2006

one of the teams who got first place at worlds snuck in a guy to perform with their team right before they competed, then took him out of the building after they were done on the floor, the reason being... he was too old to compete in that certain division...
nobody says too much about cheating until the team who won worlds in this division does it...
but what should happen? seriously... 'cause nobody's done anything about it...

Date: Sun Jul 23 10:25 PM, 2006

And I have an alligator in my bathtub.

Thanks for the laugh!

Date: Sun Jul 23 11:00 PM, 2006

No, sadly it is true. A team that won Gold did have an overage boy on their team. He had a fake birth certificate made to show he was 18, instead of 19. I doubt USASF will do anything about it, since the Gym is so prominent in the allstar world.

The punishment USASF says they impose is "Gym is banned from competing at Worlds for 3 years". Yeah right they'd actually do that to THIS Gym. The gym would just claim they didn't know the boy was overage, and that he fooled them too. That excuse already worked once this year for that Gym. Seems pretty weird they'd be "fooled by kids twice" in one year, on the same team.

If anyone from USASF reads these boards and is actually willing to do something about this, post a message saying so. I have written proof of his real age, if you want it. Although I'm sure everyone would rather just have this problem get covered up and go away. That's what happens when you're that powerful of a gym.

Date: Sun Jul 23 11:24 PM, 2006

There's no denying who we're talking about... C'mon now guys.

I heard that Pro Cheer got disqualified for an overage boy, and thats why they didnt compete in finals. They "exhibitioned only," but why would a team "exhibition" at Worlds? The entire competition is freaking amazing, as it is. So as you can see, USASF is doing hat it takes to ensure this type of cheating doesnt happen.

Cheer Athletics, cheating? Supposing that this information is true, we're all aware that even without this "overage boy," that number one spot belongs to their Large Coed team.

Bryan
Motions Coed

Date: Sun Jul 23 11:25 PM, 2006

Yup. I just love how that works don't you? I'm sure if it was so no name gym that got last place they would have done something about it.

Date: Sun Jul 23 11:33 PM, 2006

Bryan wrote:

we're all aware that even without this "overage boy," that number one spot belongs to their Large Coed team.

Listen to yourself. What you just said was:
"well even if they did cheat, take that cheater boy out of their routine, they were still good enough to be #1".

COME ON!!!!!!!!! Cheating isn't cheating "only if you wouldn't have won otherwise". Cheating is cheating because you broke a rule, regardless of the outcome.

Date: Sun Jul 23 11:37 PM, 2006

I do understand that it's cheating, but I also dont care how much they cheat. They were AMAZING to watch. They put on a show. Perhaps if my team were contending to beat CA, GA, and KE, it would be a different story. But, this is politics in cheer. And theres nothing we can really do about it.

Bryan
Motions Coed

Date: Sun Jul 23 11:42 PM, 2006

Bryan wrote:

I do understand that it's cheating, but I also dont care how much they cheat. They were AMAZING to watch.

Wow, I'm really ashamed anyone at CheerGyms could feel that way about dishonesty. This is very sad.

I can't believe Morton would like this at all.

Date: Mon Jul 24 12:49 AM, 2006

What does Cheergyms.com have ANYTHING to do with my own opinions, exactly? And it's not like I'M the one cheating...

Bryan
MOTIONS COED

Date: Mon Jul 24 7:40 AM, 2006

I too am troubled by the comments.

Basically, it says it's okay to cheat, as long as you're good. Nice.

Date: Mon Jul 24 7:48 AM, 2006

If this really happened, and if someone is willing to prove it, then I don't care how amazing a team is, they CHEATED! They do NOT deserve a gold medal. If the cheating was done as it is stated here, then whomever runs this organization deserves to be stripped of their awards from the comp where it happened. We are talking worlds here! Highschools are tougher on kids who cheat, they get an automatic F. It isn't determined by how good of a student they are otherwise. Ethics people. Without them, we are doomed.
(please note i said "if")

Date: Mon Jul 24 10:01 AM, 2006

They would have to give back the gold and it would be given to the next placements if it were happening in the Olympics.

Date: Mon Jul 24 10:08 AM, 2006

Can someone please verify that this is really what happened before we discuss it further? There must be a way to separate rumor from fact. Because if that's what really happened, and if USASF is simply looking the other way and not making any effort to prove this to be true or false, we have a serious problem with USASF. Right?

Date: Mon Jul 24 10:10 AM, 2006

You are obviously trying to claim that Cheer Athletics somehow cheated at Worlds. I can say without a doubt that that is completely false.

It has been discussed at length on this and many other forums that CA had an athlete that misrepresented himself early in the season as being eligible when he wasn't. CA Wildcats competed at ACA Nationals with this athlete (John Borzok) and found out immediately after the competition that he was not eligible. We informed the competition about the athlete and later even declined the paid bid to worlds that they had won at that competition.

We have since checked and double-checked every athlete's proof of age on that team. There were no guys (or girls) on that team were not age-eligible. There were no athletes that didn't compete with us at the qualifying event (Mardi Gras) where we got our paid bid. There was certainly no one who was "snuck in" and "snuck out" after the performance. That is just absurd. Bottom line - we did not cheat at Worlds and I am angry that you are throwing this out here with nothing whatsoever to back it up.

Perhaps you were confused because one of our uniforms got stolen the day of finals and we had to use one of the uniforms from Wondercats (our small coed team). If you watch the video, you will see that one guy has on a primarily blue uniform instead of the primarily black and white one.

Date: Mon Jul 24 10:21 AM, 2006

Mr. "Its True": I would also love to see this "written proof" that you have. Feel free to post whatever you believe that you have, or you can email it to me at jmelton@cheerathletics.com.

The director of the USASF is Jim Chadwick. If you honestly feel that you have proof, you are welcomed to send it to him as well: jchadwick@usasf.net You can also contact Steve Peterson, the director of Worlds: speterson@usasf.net

My guess is that you either making all of this up, or have your stories seriously mixed up. You are either talking about a different team at Worlds, or about a different competition this season.

Jody Melton
Cheer Athletics

Date: Mon Jul 24 11:33 AM, 2006

YOU DID CHEAT. The guy wasn't very good, but he was still on the team being over age. I may not know his name but it was that black guy who pretty much only tumbled the whole routine. (I'm not being racist ok)

Date: Mon Jul 24 12:01 PM, 2006

seriously...why does it matter...WORLDS 2006 is over...the placings are done, Cheer Athletics is and always will be amazing! If you think this is how they run things, then why have they been so successful..excuse...the MOST successful all star gym in the WORLD!?! Answer that...and dont say cheating, because..cheaters get caught...and havent you heard.."cheaters never prosper"..hmm...Id say winning 3 WORLD titles among many national titles is a huge prosper....stop causing drama on this message board...if you want drama put it on your myspace... Jodi, CA staff, and CA...im sure this person making accusations has nothing on anyone, just another drama starter that gives all of us cheereladers a BAD reputation!!