Tera Patrick wrote:Ummm, as soon as cheergyms enters a high school team in something other than novice try to have this discussion again... All the cheergyms teams do is back hand springs, they don't double their stunts down (doubles from a prep don't count), and when it comes to who performs the most difficult routine, I don't see how you can compare novice teams to advanced teams. High school teams even entering the novice division in the first place is a huge joke. If you're the best NOVICE team in the country, you're still worse than EVERY advanced team in the country... As soon as Corondolet, Alhambra, Clayton Valley, and whoever else is competing in novice is ready to step up into the ONLY division that actually matters, we might be able to agree on who the best team is. If you think a novice team is one of the best teams in Nor Cal, you obviously know nothing about cheerleading.
I would like to let you know what you just mentioned was very rude and I do not appreciate it. We definitely all are able to have opinions, but it is important, with your opinion, to not be disrespectful to others. I feel very disrespected by what you said. I was one of the coaches of Carondelet last year and they competed in the intermediate divsion and placed second at USA nationals. They most definitely could have competed advanced, but my philosophy is that if you do not have the majority of your team performing advanced skills, then do not go advanced (or any other division for that matter). My point about this post is this... We are talking Northern California, right? Are there even 5 teams in Northern California that compete at the advanced division? And if so... just because you compete in the advanced division does not automatically make you a better team. For all of those who have a cheerleading eye, realize this. I think this post is great, and people stating their opinions and the reasons for it are great, but let's remember what the thread is about... top 5 in Northern California, not how to bash or be disrespectful to others. My opinion would be (from last year)- Granite Bay, Folsom, Oak Ridge, Cardondelet, and Clayton Valley. This year, watch out for Monte Vista from Danville : )
The Huge issue here is no one can say a team is the best with out the comp someone should put a comp together for all the high schools in norcal? Any Takers? Everyone should compete advanced because believe it or not Novice is good for beginning teams but I have a hard time saying that Novice team is the best. How can you say that? Are they doing full squad standing tucks and doubles out of elite stunts?????? I also think it is biased for a coach to say they think the team they train is the best. Of Course you think that otherwise why would you coach them? Clayton would be out until they step into advanced I heard they went to intermediate this year thats good once you win in novice i think you should step up and continue to. Carondelet doesnt even have a team anymore that competes. Monte Vista is novice how can they be the best???? Folsom is good but again not advanced this year. Granite Bay is not competing as Lisa stated earlier. So I think we should go with who do you think the best advanced teams, novice and intermediate teams in norcal are. Heres my guesses- and again this is just my opinion feel free to disagree. But state your reasoning so we all can know how you figure.
Advanced Liberty High School: There Pretty Amazing Granada: There just fun to watch OakMont: There coed but look amazing this year
Intermediate: Folsom: Very clean and good technique Foothill: I thought they were advanced but very good Amador: Full squad tucks very good
Novice: College Park: I think they have improved tremendously in the last few years Homestead: Always very clean and good Mission San Jose: Ok, Not the best but always look clean and very techniqually skilled.
Sorry so long. But I love to hear why people pick who they do. Guess well find out at nationals this year. Bring it NorCAL
Tera Patrick wrote:Ummm, as soon as cheergyms enters a high school team in something other than novice try to have this discussion again... All the cheergyms teams do is back hand springs, they don't double their stunts down (doubles from a prep don't count), and when it comes to who performs the most difficult routine, I don't see how you can compare novice teams to advanced teams. High school teams even entering the novice division in the first place is a huge joke. If you're the best NOVICE team in the country, you're still worse than EVERY advanced team in the country... As soon as Corondolet, Alhambra, Clayton Valley, and whoever else is competing in novice is ready to step up into the ONLY division that actually matters, we might be able to agree on who the best team is. If you think a novice team is one of the best teams in Nor Cal, you obviously know nothing about cheerleading.
I would like to let you know what you just mentioned was very rude and I do not appreciate it. We definitely all are able to have opinions, but it is important, with your opinion, to not be disrespectful to others. I feel very disrespected by what you said. I was one of the coaches of Carondelet last year and they competed in the intermediate divsion and placed second at USA nationals. They most definitely could have competed advanced, but my philosophy is that if you do not have the majority of your team performing advanced skills, then do not go advanced (or any other division for that matter). My point about this post is this... We are talking Northern California, right? Are there even 5 teams in Northern California that compete at the advanced division? And if so... just because you compete in the advanced division does not automatically make you a better team. For all of those who have a cheerleading eye, realize this. I think this post is great, and people stating their opinions and the reasons for it are great, but let's remember what the thread is about... top 5 in Northern California, not how to bash or be disrespectful to others. My opinion would be (from last year)- Granite Bay, Folsom, Oak Ridge, Cardondelet, and Clayton Valley. This year, watch out for Monte Vista from Danville : )
The Huge issue here is no one can say a team is the best with out the comp someone should put a comp together for all the high schools in norcal? Any Takers? Everyone should compete advanced because believe it or not Novice is good for beginning teams but I have a hard time saying that Novice team is the best. How can you say that? Are they doing full squad standing tucks and doubles out of elite stunts?????? I also think it is biased for a coach to say they think the team they train is the best. Of Course you think that otherwise why would you coach them? Clayton would be out until they step into advanced I heard they went to intermediate this year thats good once you win in novice i think you should step up and continue to. Carondelet doesnt even have a team anymore that competes. Monte Vista is novice how can they be the best???? Folsom is good but again not advanced this year. Granite Bay is not competing as Lisa stated earlier. So I think we should go with who do you think the best advanced teams, novice and intermediate teams in norcal are. Heres my guesses- and again this is just my opinion feel free to disagree. But state your reasoning so we all can know how you figure.
Advanced Liberty High School: There Pretty Amazing Granada: There just fun to watch OakMont: There coed but look amazing this year
Intermediate: Folsom: Very clean and good technique Foothill: I thought they were advanced but very good Amador: Full squad tucks very good
Novice: College Park: I think they have improved tremendously in the last few years Homestead: Always very clean and good Mission San Jose: Ok, Not the best but always look clean and very techniqually skilled.
Sorry so long. But I love to hear why people pick who they do. Guess well find out at nationals this year. Bring it NorCAL
I know a lot of high schools go to usa nationals, but does anyone know what high schools from nor cal are going to jamz nationals? All i know is granada, livermore, and dublin...
I agree that this post should be about who your favorite teams are. I also would like to see a true Northern California competitions where all the teams are represented. What about doing doing one to benefit a charity?
On a side note: I would rather watch a level three team with gorgeous skills than a level 5 team that is sloppy.
My favorite high school teams to watch are Clayton Valley and Folsom. The first time I saw Folsom I was blown away. Does Bobby Biggs coach this team? A great novice team is South San Francisco.
I know a lot of high schools go to usa nationals, but does anyone know what high schools from nor cal are going to jamz nationals? All i know is granada, livermore, and dublin... Mercy High School, Burlingame is taking their cheer team and songleaders.