Jamz was a torture!!!!

Date: Wed Mar 15 3:11 PM, 2006

RE: Jamz was a torture!!!!

Date: Wed Mar 15 3:32 PM, 2006

I think the JAMZ competition was by far, the best comp this year. I have always loved it, because of the energy and everything.

But one thing that i absolutely hated was the security. I know they're "just doing what they were told to do", but they weren't told to be rude. They just acted very unprofessional in what they were doing and didn't seem like they were having fun or enjoying it. They seemed like they were just there to get paid, or whatever.

Date: Wed Mar 15 4:52 PM, 2006

I agree ath "I love JAMZ" and "someone". One of the best comps this year. Loved the venue, tons of room to stand around outside of the arena, no waiting in food or bathroom lines!!!!!!! Comfy seats too! Great job and venue choice JAMZ!!

Date: Wed Mar 15 8:57 PM, 2006

I totally agree with everything said. I loved the venue, but it went on for too long. The judges wrote a comment that my team's performance lacked energy.
Well duh!! it's because we went on after midnight. WAY TOO LATE!!!!

Date: Wed Mar 15 9:27 PM, 2006

Renee (sr. red) wrote:

My two cents:

Although the Jamz staff was great, funny, nice and comforting (to me: because as Motions Sr. Black was walking up the stairs on to the stage, I sprained my ankle walking off the warm up floor). The security folks and the parents or "grandparents" from other teams were rude. Just, and I mean just (like seconds) before Pyramids Sr. Black was going to perform, we went down in front to cheer/support them, when this "grandmother" from another team ( not one that had recently preformed or was going to any time soon) was sitting in the second row SAVING SEATS! She wouldn't let another girl and my self sit in the seats she was saving "for her grandchildren" and the security woman would not let us stand anywhere else. And to make matters worse she complained that we were too loud and our jumping (from excitement) was getting in her way of seeing! After Pyramids Sr. Black was done, we left as we promised her we would; she sat there for at least the next 30 min waiting for her two young grandchildren. I was floored by the way she and the woman “monitoring” the aisle were rude to us, we did as were expected stand there and support and when done leave, back to our seats. I hope at the next competitions there is some sort of method to madness that goes on during teams’ performances.

- xoxo- Renee (Pyramids Sr. Red)

Renee,

The irony of your situation was that the grandmother was NOT even supposed to be down on the floor. The security guard should have done something about her presence in a restricted area. Heaven knows the rest of us weren't allowed down there. It's a shame when people don't follow the rules.

I had a similar experience at GSSA. When my daughter's team took the floor, the moms went down to the seats on the floor (since the first four rows were reserved for fans of the team performing). There was a Legend's mom and her mom (I assume) who refused to vacate their front row seats after being asked politely. Of course we didn't know what team she was with until Legends Sr. Level 3 took the floor. Many of us were forced to kneel on the floor just to see our daughters perform. I think a little common courtesy would go a long way. In fact this mom camped out on her front row chair for a few more performances until a mom more forceful than I was able to convince her to move. Of course she only moved to the second row and remained there for the remainder of the competition.

People that think the rules do not apply to them drive me crazy!!!

Date: Wed Mar 15 9:44 PM, 2006

No offense to the parents but like said up above, it is about the kids. Your kids are the ones that made it and work their butts off to get there. I know you pay and drive and do so much more but you're not doing it for yourselves, you're doing it for you kids. So please keep in mind that the kids are the ones doing it and not the parents.

Date: Wed Mar 15 10:22 PM, 2006

Don't talk about food please. It's too easy to sit and eat in front of the computer.... hehehehe

Security was told to wake kids towards the end of the evening. Several kids were sleeping in their seats because it was 1 in the morning at this point. An older security guard came up and SHOOK two children who were sitting with their older sibling. And when I say SHOOK, I mean, they grabbed the children by the shirt, shoved them back and forth in their seats rapidly and forcefully. Then he reached to another child about 4 or 5 years old and smacked her on the head repeatedly. All of us sitting there were in shock and screaming at him to stop.....

I'm sure JAMZ didn't want that kind of treatment for their kids....

Date: Thu Mar 16 1:19 AM, 2006

I'm finding this a bit hard to believe, Nachos. Why didn't the older sibling wake them up? Why would security do this, and with the older sibling sitting there? Finally, if you and others were screaming at him to stop, what happened afterwards -- did you report this to anyone? It seems like an odd thing to just casually add on a message board as a post-thought. If it's true, hopefully someone reported it immediately to Jamz.

Date: Thu Mar 16 10:19 AM, 2006

This is to "Yes". I can't believe that you would not be upset over how your parents are treated at any event. I would think they would be upset if you were treated disrespectfully. It is for the kids BUT the WORLD does not REVOLVE around them and if cheer teaches this to kids then the kids are going to have a SHOCKER when they go out to the REAL world. I so far have enjoyed my kids in cheer because it has taught them many life skills (i.e. hard work pays off, sportsmanship, etc.) but I would think that compassion for others is also one of them and these events sometimes brings out the WORST in people because compassion and common sense are just not in them--and that is what worries me. Your post proves that cheer is teaching you the wrong thing--YOU ARE NOT SUPERIOR to others just because you work out your body a couple of times a week and I am sure work really hard at it too--it just means you found something you LOVE to do and that is a GIFT given to you with the HELP of your parents--show some THANKFULLNES for that!

Date: Thu Mar 16 11:17 AM, 2006

The older sibling was 14, the paretns were yelling at him to stop and another mom immediatly got up and told the person in charge. We didn't just sit there..... but he also didn't stop when we were yelling at him.... There were about 6 other witnesses from Cheergyms that saw it too. I didn't just make it up.......

Date: Thu Mar 16 11:19 AM, 2006

And aren't we SUPPOSED to poist random thoughts on a message board??? Sorry, I will keep my thoughts to myself then. Let me know what I am SUPPOSED TO post and i will post that.

Date: Thu Mar 16 6:18 PM, 2006

Nachos, perfectly fine to post random thoughts. It's just that those were not random thoughts, those were some pretty serious accusations (smacking kids around, shoving them back and forth). It's not that folks don't believe you, it's just shocking that it happened and a bigger deal wasn't made of it. If there were witnesses hopefully they will also make sure this is dealt with. I mean, this is stuff people should lose their jobs over.

Date: Thu Mar 16 6:58 PM, 2006

Oh, it's ot an accusation... it really happened. I was as shocked as you all are.... I don't know what the parents of the kids did about it. They weren't from our gym.

Date: Sun Mar 19 8:46 PM, 2006

Yeah seriously no offense to the parents but it is about the cheerleaders not YOU! Why dont you give your child everything she needs before she leaves you to go with her team. You probaly wont see her until after the competition if you havnt figured that out yet. But you should be proud of your daughter that she is there.
So why dont you sit in your seat and eat a hotdog and enjoy the competition.

Date: Sun Mar 19 10:51 PM, 2006

Parents, every child is so greatful for everything you do for them but as said above, its for the kids and that's the most important part. I heard a parent wine about how long the competition was......uhhhh go home and find a ride for your kid, or hey, don't go!

Date: Mon Mar 20 6:14 AM, 2006

OK... I'm guessing that the last two posts were made by kids. I'm sure that when it comes time to pay for all the cheer costs and the competition travel fees your additute changes to being a little more courteous toward you own parents. Yes this is all about the kids and yes they come first. But most parents accept alot of the negatives of being a parent of a cheerleader because they love thier children. Excuse us for once an a while having the need to complain about bad seating, bad expensive food, and being treated like cattle all the while keeping a smile on our face because it's for the kids. Why is it ok for you to complain on this board yet when a parent complains we are whiners who need to be quiet because it's about the kids. Don't forget without the parent with the open pocket book you would not be doing what you love at all. Your lack of appreiciation and understanding does little to warm the heart.

Date: Mon Mar 20 8:05 AM, 2006

I agree that this is for the kids. I do know however that my daughter LOVES that her dad, her grandma, her grandpa, her uncle, her aunt, and myself all attend to watch her perform. What would a competition be with out ANY spectators?

Also, I know that my daughter would hate it if I told her "Sorry honey, I am not going to go to your National Competition because of ______, but remember this is just about you anyways, not the rest of the family"

As a cheerleader, would you rather your parents just drop you off and find you a ride home? Or help companies make their competitions better so that the whole family could attend and enjoy it? Are the issues you are reading on this board really that unreasonable? Is someone asking for latte machines in every aisle? Are they asking for foot massages during awards?

Date: Mon Mar 20 9:27 AM, 2006

to "jamz was not a torture"

Date: Tue Mar 21 7:27 PM, 2006

RE: Jamz was a torture!!!!

Date: Wed Mar 22 3:03 PM, 2006

To "california roll" you warmed my heart at how appreciative you were that your parents were at Jamz--that is my point ALL kids deserve to have that feeling you got when your parents were there for you! You are a great kid to not take that for granted.