Worlds Viewer wrote: That is correct, at large bids go to prelims and partial and paid bids go directly into finals. And as far as "West Coast Style" goes; in all of the MAJOR nationals, a "West Coast Style" team either won and/or came in top three. So yes, they do well nationally also.
I really think you should get the facts straight. Yes, many teams hire Ray Lazano, eric little, and john peters to do dance choreography, but the overall style is either NCA and or/Dallas style that or that flashy northeast style. The only programs that seem to do well nationally in the West are Champion Outlaws, California all stars, and American Cheer. Now Cheer force, Power, West Coast mavericks, and handful of others are changing that trend, but when you think of powerhouses you think of Cheer Athletics, Stingray all stars, Spirit of Texas, Pro Spirit, Maryland Twisters, and World Cup. None of which have that West Coast style. West Coast style did have its era for a while at UCA nationals but lately you need to bring the skills and style to win at the big competitions.
And which of those teams that you mentioned, Cali, American and Champion are from Northern California. None, and they do well, very well Nationally. From NCA to UCA, to American Grand. The "West Coast Style" was around before the flashy Northeast teams existed. Date back to Clovis and San Diego Rebels. Both did well at NCA. So, like it was said before, California is doing well this their style of cheerleading and has been for many years. Of course there are teams like POWER and WCM that do well at comps also and it is too bad that more No Cal teams cannot be named here but overall, California is doing very well with their style and whether the teams are considered a Power House or not is depending on one's own opinion. They don't have to be a so called power house to be considered a good team/program. A team that happeneds to be from California and doing it with the West Coast Style of cheerleading.
You've got to be a power house to do well? I think that all that was said is that the West Coast Style is doing well at the major Nationals. Coming in top three is nothing to sneeze at. I'm sure most of us wish we had those stats. You can't do that without style and skill. I think someone needs to look at the posts. Nobody was talking about power house teams, they were refering to the West Coast Style of cheerleading. A style that I enjoy and obviously, the judges do too. How many of us have dared to go to NCA? How many of us have even scored in the top 10 or made finals when we did go? Don't put down others who have gone and have proven their abilities. East coast, west coast, etc. A good team is a good team and I'm glad to see that we have some here in California that can hold their own and can represent.
My comment was directed to Cheerleading Fan. Check your facts. Look at the record of those teams that were mentioned. With the exception of American, who has done well at Worlds, the others have done quite well at Nationals. Any Nationals that they've competed at. Give credit to those teams that can do it. Their style, their skill and their accomplishments are amazing and more teams out of the state of Califonria are hiring those very chorgs. that you mentioned for a reason.
Exactly wrote: And which of those teams that you mentioned, Cali, American and Champion are from Northern California. None, and they do well, very well Nationally. From NCA to UCA, to American Grand. The "West Coast Style" was around before the flashy Northeast teams existed. Date back to Clovis and San Diego Rebels. Both did well at NCA. So, like it was said before, California is doing well this their style of cheerleading and has been for many years. Of course there are teams like POWER and WCM that do well at comps also and it is too bad that more No Cal teams cannot be named here but overall, California is doing very well with their style and whether the teams are considered a Power House or not is depending on one's own opinion. They don't have to be a so called power house to be considered a good team/program. A team that happeneds to be from California and doing it with the West Coast Style of cheerleading.
Again cheerleading is subjective and a matter of opinion. The 1st team to really bring the west coast style to a good level was Champion Cheer outlaws. Just because you perform a style, doesn't make it innovative or creative, its just different. Outlaws and Ray Jasper was the team to really sell the West coast style and made its selling point to the country. Instead of just settling for average performance nationally, push yourself to truely be the best. Now that cheer is more exposed, West coast teams have no reason not to step it up.
I think Motions Co-ed and Pyramids Co-ed have been doing well throughout their season. Some ups and some downs, but I am just amazed that people do not name the all-american team more often. The team is combined with the best of the best in cheergyms.com- many of which are on either Pyramids co-ed or Motions co-ed. Does anyone else find that to be interesting?
I think it might be because people do not think about them because they have only competed once. For sure they are better than the other two teams. Not to be mean, but they are more well rounded and the routine is better and a lot more diffucult.
I know that when the time comes--- people will be talikng about All-American.
Yes. All American is the team to watch. I caught a glimps of them in SJ, what team! This team should definately perform more and win a bid to worlds. Good for you cheergyms, what a great idea to come up with such a team!
Just a question but happens if both the all american team and lets say motions make a bid to worlds.....which team are they gonna pick to go to worlds cause the rule says you cant cross compette from two diffrent gyms.......so who are they gonna pick to go.....it would kinda suck to tell one of the teams you cant go cause the other one is........
I read the rules from the Worlds site and it said the cross competiting is not allow between othe gyms. That rule is for this year. Cross competing is allowed with members of the same gym but with some restrictions.
Someone in your gym might wanna reread the rules.....the rules state you cant cross from gym to gym and your all american team and anyother team would break that rule...."i was just woundering how you guys were gonna decide on who was gonna go........." that would stink for one of those teams that were not allowed to go just because of this rule.......
cheergyms.com is registered with the USASF as one gym/company. In other words, the official names of each of these teams are....... *cheergyms.com Motions All Stars *cheergyms.com Pyramids All Stars *cheergyms.com All American Team
This has already been cleared with USASF so no worries. If we are blessed enough to have even one team get to go much less 2 or 3 it'll all be ok.
That was slick registering it all like that......so that means if say cheer athletics and spirit of texas wanna combine and make a couple teams......all they have to do is register and say our owners decided to merge.....man im smart today so if anyone out there wants to cross compette kids from gym to gym register as your owners decided to combine gyms....and you can.....very good job on finding the loop hole you read rules well
There is more to merging than that. It is not that simple. I would imagine one would buy that the other for this to happen. Or two owners would merge and agree and split the profit. See not as simple as saying hey let's merge for Worlds.
With Pyramids, Motions and All American, there was no "merging" going on. All of these gyms are owned by the same 2 people. Danny Kahn and Morton Bergue. I don't see a problem with any of this. Top Gun in Florida has two locations and trust me. When it comes time for Worlds, both gyms are represented. Our gyms just happen to have different names.