Expansion in 2011 and Beyond!

EnvyMe · GURU

Expansion in 2011 and Beyond!

Coach Amy G · Member

I had heard OA was closing after this season. Not 100% sure if this is true, just something I had heard.

Cacheer08 · Veteran Member

HOW EXCITING for SA!!!!! smile

cheer4fun · Veteran Member

Looks like the athletes in the Inland Empire/San Gabriel Valley area will have even more gyms to choose from this season.

Fierce - Rancho Cucamonga & High Desert
Cheer Force - Rancho Cucamonga
Energie All Stars - Chino Hills
Maximum Explosive - Chino
Chino Valley Vipers - Chino
Spirit Athletics - High Desert & now Upland
United Elite Athletics - Upland
Ultimate Storm All Stars - Covina
West Coast All Stars - Walnut
RockStar Athletics - Baldwin Park
StarLite All Stars - City of Industry
Impact Elite - San Bernardino
Prodigy All Stars - Riverside
C & C Premier Cheer - Corona
Pacific Coast Magic - Corona
Twist'n U- Lake Elsinore

Please feel free to add if you know of more gyms in this area. Interesting to see all the gyms in this area, as we always talk about OC, San Diego, and the Northern California Areas.

-- Edited by cheer4fun on Tuesday 5th of April 2011 11:30:16 AM

POSITIVElycheer · Senior Member

CV - Covina
CCG - Covina
Starlite - City of Industry
Victory - Pasadena
United Athletics - Upland

Not sure if the first two are still around.

IMO this area is way over saturated.

Parent of 3 · Newbie

California State law states you can put flyers on cars on public property. Now, if the property is privately owned then you can not. Below that statement there is a breakdown of literally where you can and can not:
"F.) Schools are also a place where you have the RIGHT to pass out flyers (as long as you stay in the parking lot and do not go into the school to pass out flyers). No one from the school can stop you, unless you trespassed into the school when gates were locked."

Needless to say this act is completely legal. When I head to a shopping center I sometimes leave with a flyer on my windshield from a business who is soliciting their product. They're not directly handing me something and telling and selling me why their business is best, but they are just simply letting me know that they have a business in the area that I might be interested in. If I am not interested, I just throw away the flyer.

In the world of all star cheerleading, getting a flyer from another gym attached to your car is one of the most simple, fair, and most KIND ways of soliciting business. In a world where gyms steal other gyms personal clients emails and send them tryout information, recruit kids at competitions, and hand out flyers and business cards personally to athletes and families..... a little flyer just showing that they have a business in your location isn't bad at all.

If you're looking at this situation negatively it's probably because your business feels threatened. This has happened at many cheerleading events including events held at the LA Convention Center, Anaheim Convention Center, and Long Beach Pyramid. It has never become a big deal because it is legal.... and at the end of the day it's a piece of paper!!!! Throw it away if don't like it!

This will not be considered "recruiting" in any way. It is not targeting a specific person and has no form of contact by communication, deal making, or payment.

John Hebert · Senior Member

@ parent of 3

The USASF is working on guidelines that will be part of the Professional Responsibility Code which is part of the terms and conditions of a gyms membership with the USASF for the 2011/2012 season. These guidelines include recruiting at USASF sanctioned events. Exact criteria will be announced at a later date.

Competitions are meant to be a SAFE zone/area. Gyms attend competitions to compete and not to worry about protecting their kids from being approached/pouched by other gyms. The best recruiting anyone can do is to put a great product on the floor / their teams performance. Every team performing has music that says their name 20 million times during the routine, biggrin If a kid really wants to look for another gym they can always find them on the web, but a competition is just that... a competition

JOHN HEBERT

raesmomma · Senior Member

cheer4fun wrote:
Looks like the athletes in the Inland Empire/San Gabriel Valley area will have even more gyms to choose from this season.
Fierce - Rancho Cucamonga & High Desert
Cheer Force - Rancho Cucamonga
Energie All Stars - Chino Hills
Maximum Explosive - Chino
Chino Valley Vipers - Chino
Spirit Athletics - High Desert & now Upland
Ultimate Storm All Stars - Covina
West Coast All Stars - Walnut
RockStar Athletics - Baldwin Park
Impact Elite - San Bernardino
Prodigy All Stars - Riverside
C & C Premier Cheer - Corona
Twist'n U - Corona
Pacific Coast Magic - Corona
Please feel free to add if you know of more gyms in this area. Interesting to see all the gyms in this area, as we always talk about OC, San Diego, and the Northern California Areas.

Twist-N-U - Lake Elsinore

Fierce Coach · GURU

Good to know John. I hope they don't try to say you can't put flyers on cars though! I have to agree with parent of 3. It seems hardly like recruiting. Any way - do you know when the Professional Responsibility Code will be released?

cheer4fun · Veteran Member

CV is no longer around, not sure about California Cheer Gym. I believe a lot of the staff from CCG went over to Maximum Explosive.

John Hebert · Senior Member

We have not been given and exact date. The National Advisory Board is meeting today in Dallas. I should know more soon.

JOHN

legendbabe08 · Veteran Member

cheer4fun wrote:
CV is no longer around, not sure about California Cheer Gym. I believe a lot of the staff from CCG went over to Maximum Explosive.

From my understanding, I believe these two (Maximum and CCG) actually merged.

cheergirl520 · Member

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cheergirl520 · Member

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cheerpleasure · Veteran Member

Parent of 3 wrote:
California State law states you can put flyers on cars on public property. Now, if the property is privately owned then you can not. Below that statement there is a breakdown of literally where you can and can not:
"F.) Schools are also a place where you have the RIGHT to pass out flyers (as long as you stay in the parking lot and do not go into the school to pass out flyers). No one from the school can stop you, unless you trespassed into the school when gates were locked."

Needless to say this act is completely legal. When I head to a shopping center I sometimes leave with a flyer on my windshield from a business who is soliciting their product. They're not directly handing me something and telling and selling me why their business is best, but they are just simply letting me know that they have a business in the area that I might be interested in. If I am not interested, I just throw away the flyer.

In the world of all star cheerleading, getting a flyer from another gym attached to your car is one of the most simple, fair, and most KIND ways of soliciting business. In a world where gyms steal other gyms personal clients emails and send them tryout information, recruit kids at competitions, and hand out flyers and business cards personally to athletes and families..... a little flyer just showing that they have a business in your location isn't bad at all.

If you're looking at this situation negatively it's probably because your business feels threatened. This has happened at many cheerleading events including events held at the LA Convention Center, Anaheim Convention Center, and Long Beach Pyramid. It has never become a big deal because it is legal.... and at the end of the day it's a piece of paper!!!! Throw it away if don't like it!

This will not be considered "recruiting" in any way. It is not targeting a specific person and has no form of contact by communication, deal making, or payment.

It is totally legal. The funny thing is that the comp that this was recently done at, the coach partnered up with the competition company, he has all star teams and a high school team, the coach had some kids go take all of the flyers off every single car. We thought, wow that was a lot of work for nothing. I asked the kid, who is having you take all of these flyers off? He said, the coach from the high school.

-- Edited by cheerpleasure on Tuesday 5th of April 2011 05:41:02 PM

-- Edited by cheerpleasure on Tuesday 5th of April 2011 05:42:26 PM

Cheergirl1 · Newbie

jbjrmom wrote:
Believer wrote:
Cheergirl1 wrote:
Agreed very tacky! Train your own kids!

-- Edited by Cheergirl1 on Sunday 3rd of April 2011 09:00:44 PM
I have know idea what gym(s) you are talking about but I love your comment..."Train your own kids!" So true.

The thing is..on the "train your own kids" thing....sometimes a customer wants something else...and we as customers have a right to choose where we go...so sometimes training your own.....you still lose some....just do your best and do a God grant me the seranity check now and then....I think people forget that there is no pink slip to humans....I was a hairstylist for years....I used to laugh when a salon would sell and say "clientele included"....I believe we all end up where we are supposed to be...of our own free will....:)

If kids want to leave because they aren't happy with their gym then thats fine, but i find it very disrespectful that another gym is writing our kids, talking trash about our program when they know nothing about it and are just trying to create unneccessary drama.

SuzyB · Veteran Member

Justcheerin wrote:
I heard West Coast and OC All Stars are merging is that true? If so that is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smart business move!

I think it would be a great merge. I see the girls from OC hanging out with the West Coast girls a lot. Anyone know if this merge is for real?

POSITIVElycheer · Senior Member

SuzyB wrote:
Justcheerin wrote:
I heard West Coast and OC All Stars are merging is that true? If so that is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smart business move!

I think it would be a great merge. I see the girls from OC hanging out with the West Coast girls a lot. Anyone know if this merge is for real?

No it is not true as confirmed by both sides.

Cacheer08 · Veteran Member

@Fierce coach.....of course you are going to defend the thought of putting flyers on the cars, because they are your programs flyers!!! Funny thing is you have attended competitions and not put flyers on cars but you did it at the local sharp competition where you knew the local gyms SA and mystic were attending!!!! please also, explain the anonomysous txts that are being sent to SA and mystic kids and parents regarding your tryout info????? Do ehos worried????? I think your actions speak volumes!!!!!

flowergirl · Senior Member

hey sharp has non spring floors, you need to get something out of that comp.
and Sharp allows you to recruit just not at "national competitions".