CHEER FORCE HAS A ORANGE COUNTY GYM NOW? That's really unfortunete for OC all stars, Stealth, PCM Laguna because many athletes will choose Cheerforce's program next year. But Congrats Cheerforce!!

Yes! Exactly! I did not like Stingrays and Georgia together either they are so much better as their own competitors. I really hope we see Magic All Stars again and I hope no other program combines! Don't these gyms like having other teams to compete against? I would much rather compete against 10 teams than 3 because they have all emerged?? Times are tough and I think that's a reason so many are merging but in the future when this economy changes I think they'll all want to be their own gym again and the further they take their merge the harder it will be to pull out, the kids will get so use to having a combined gym and it will just make it that much harder to explain to them that they are changing again. Let's hope OC, Stealth, Surf, CA or any of those gyms don't merge! Every gym is unique in their own way and I like unique it makes this sport so much more exciting.

ALLaboutCHEEER wrote:

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CHEER FORCE HAS A ORANGE COUNTY GYM NOW? That's really unfortunete for OC all stars, Stealth, PCM Laguna because many athletes will choose Cheerforce's program next year. But Congrats Cheerforce!!

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Cheerforce O.C. (Santa Ana) is going to have the same coaches and run by the same people as Stealth has had in the past. Basically Stealth style with a different name and location. Personally, I dont think many athletes will choose Cheerforce over O.C. & PCM Laguna. I think the lower levels at those locations top them by far. I like Cheerforce and I wish them luck at their new location.

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Call me crazy but I got the complete opposite from the PC/Magic merger  Before they merged i had no clue who magic even was other than their senior 5 team. At the end of the day NO other team stood out in my mind campaired to others. Now that they have combined I love every single one of their teams. From the cute little tiny 1's to the senior 5 every team stands out to me at competitions. 

Not sure how i feel out the CFOC thing  I love love love stealth and they were really making a name for themselves. I loves their style and their routines were always so creative. I know they didn't merge with cheerforce and will still be around but i dont think it will be the same since those coaches are now with cheerforce. But who know their new cheer director is GREAT and probably has great things in store for that program.

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Totally agree !!

 

EnvyMe wrote:

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Call me crazy but I got the complete opposite from the PC/Magic merger Before they merged i had no clue who magic even was other than their senior 5 team. At the end of the day NO other team stood out in my mind campaired to others. Now that they have combined I love every single one of their teams. From the cute little tiny 1's to the senior 5 every team stands out to me at competitions. 

Not sure how i feel out the CFOC thing I love love love stealth and they were really making a name for themselves. I loves their style and their routines were always so creative. I know they didn't merge with cheerforce and will still be around but i dont think it will be the same since those coaches are now with cheerforce. But who know their new cheer director is GREAT and probably has great things in store for that program.

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Your right. the PCM teams do stand out this year and Magic was pretty much well known for only their Small Sr 5 team but I still love Magic and PC being their own gyms just like west coast and platinum being their own gyms I like variety and uniqueness and I just don't see that anymore that's just my opinion

 

-- Edited by CaitlynsMomma on Thursday 1st of April 2010 09:22:52 AM

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I'm not from either of these gyms. But while I agree that bigger is not always better I do believe that the ever-changing dynamics of all star cheer in southern california (or nation wide if you follow other states) is forcing many smaller/medium sized gyms to consider making changes they would not ordinarily make, such as merging or submitting. So many other gyms have done it, giving themselves the opportunity to combine athletic skills and coaching resources. I do understand that some families view it as unnecessary or maybe don't quite understand why this keeps happening. But maybe these gyms have no other option....or better maybe they view this as a wonderful opportunity to do something greater for their own families. Some changes are made in an effort to be proactive...some are reactive. But better to make a change than to stand by and do nothing which is tantamount to sticking one's head in the sand. If some of these gyms don't make some kind of move they may be forced to make a change that no one wants to see, i.e. fading into nonexistence. Families won't pay for mediocricy or "just fun" any more. Those days are long gone. If a gym doesn't have the resources to make a sustantial change they should consider all options and if merging is the best one that works for them, so be it. Many smaller gyms have "just enough" talent, "just enough" staff, make "just enough" money to cover overhead...but rarely enough to make that one great move that will push them to the forefront. Oh, let's not forget about the yearly loss of local talent to big dawg gyms and the occasional new gym, which depletes talent pools on the regular. (Not hating just real talk here.) Sometimes the battle becomes to big to fight alone so gyms begin to join forces. It's hard to accept but then again all things evolve. I'm the parent of two and yes they have a blast at their gym! But they are also there to work, learn about commitment and dedication as wellas teamwork... good sportsmanship and healthy competition. I'm sure we all know that not every child who is sick is required to bring a doctor's note, even though it is so written. I've only seen a note requested when an athlete demonstrates a chronic absenteeism probem and has little regard for the most critical practices right before a competition. These types of changes are happening every where. Fasten you seatbelts moms and dads cause it's gonna be a long ride for many regions of the United States.

Let's see where these mergers/acquisitions/"joined forces" take these gyms (i.e stealth/cf, wc/platinum, and others to come I'm sure). From my point of view, every time there's a change it forces every gym to take stock of what they have, which is good thing for the consumer. It's a back-door way of forcing gyms to raise the bar. I may not always be ready for the them but I'm all for it if it means that something positive can possibly come out of it. We shall see...!

Good Luck West Coast / Platinum! I'm looking forward to seeing your new product next season.

My only request to gym owners?....Leave the consumer a variety of options. I will scream bloody murder if we are narrowed to 1 or 2 gyms choices. THAT, dear people, will not be good for any of us.

-- Edited by CHEERMOMI2 on Thursday 1st of April 2010 08:28:05 AM

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Well said Cheermom!

 

I loved both Pacific Coast and Magic and I don't know why they merged, but PCM is awesome!  It looks like it was a great decision.

Just saw online that there will indeed be a new California All Star gym in Riverside next season  Lots of changes going on in the cheer world. Cant wait to see how it all plays out

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Just curious'''where did u see the info for the new Ca gym????

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They posted the tryout info for the different gyms on the ca facebook, and it says "riverside coming soon" so i asked a friend and they said there will be a gym in riverside next season