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RE: Junior Division at Worlds 2010


As most of you know, there has been much debate about whether the IASF / USASF should continue to offer the International Junior Level 5 Divisions at The Cheerleading Worlds.

The decision to keep the International Junior Divisions came after hearing input at various international meetings and our from our international members during, and following, the 2009 Worlds and Coaches Conference. As a majority, the representatives from the international community felt it was critical to continue offering Worlds International divisions for the development and growth of cheerleading in their countries.

The "International Divisions" were originally created for all countries throughout the World, not just the U.S. Although they have had the largest overall participation, the U.S. is one country out of the 30 plus that have participated over the past years. However, here in the U.S. , where

the industry is already developed, many of the event Producers and gyms are not in favor of Junior

Cheer teams competing at Worlds because it may create a negative impact to the growth of this sport domestically.

After the announcement of the inclusion of Junior divisions for the 2010 event, there was a significant enough amount of push back from a variety of entities here in the U.S. to cause the decision to be reviewed.

The USASF Board of Directors met today to discuss the issues around this contentious topic. Given that some countries have already awarded bids for the 2010 Cheerleading Worlds event and that the announcement of divisions was made public, it seemed most logical to look at a compromise that would restrict the U.S. involvement in Junior divisions while still making the division available for other countries. Ultimately, the Board has agreed upon the following parameters for awarding for awarding 2010 Cheerleading Worlds bids specifically to U.S. Junior Level 5 teams:


I. US Tier 1 and 2 Companies WILL NOT be permitted to award "any" of their allocated 2010 Cheerleading Worlds Bids to "any" Junior Level 5 teams.

2. Any U.S. Junior Level 5 team that would like to receive a 2010 Cheerleading Worlds bid to compete in either the International Junior or International Junior Coed Division may still do so, but only by video submission. They will have to submit a video of their routine by January 15, 2010.

3. The USASF Selection Committee will select a Worlds caliber judging panel to select the top 3 U.S. teams in each of the International Junior Divisions to represent the U.S. at the 2010 Cheerleading Worlds. These teams will be awarded At Large

Bids on or before February 1, 2010.


4. All additional details will be written in The 2010 Cheerleading Worlds General Information posted on the usasf.net website in early July.

After weighing out all of the pros and cons, the USASF Board of Directors feels that this new selection process for awarding At Large bids to the U.S. Junior teams is the best compromise

because:

1. U.S. event producers will not offer Juniors Worlds Bids... which, many do not want to do anyway!

2. There would be a maximum of 6 U.S. Junior teams at Worlds versus the 42 we had this year.

3. Gyms that want to send a Junior team to Worlds have the choice to compete by video entry and not feel forced to go to Worlds after they receive a Worlds bid at a U.S. qualifying event.

4. There will be an opportunity for U.S. Junior Teams at Worlds for the other countries to compete against,
which is what the International teams "really" want.


We appreciate your understanding and flexibility regarding this new structure for U.S. Junior teams and the 2010 Cheerleading Worlds. If you have any questions, please contact me!



Thank you!

Steve Peterson

VP - USASF Events & Corporate Alliances

Office: 901-251-5951

Fax: 800-969-6309

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Hey ACE DAD (or anyone else)-- Can you find out if the same process will apply to the new Jr International Dance team as well?

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Being our gym doesnt have any junior 5 athletes, I am not personally affected by the rule, but I'm not a huge fan of juniors being at worlds to begin with.

However, from a coaching stand point, if, hypothetically, I had a Junior 5 team, I would be ticked OFF! Changing rules after teams have been set and practices have began.  Now, chances are, little Junior Jenny who has her double, Im sure, would like to be on a Worlds team, So you take Senior Stacy who only has a layout or a full, and put her on level 4 now or Junior Jenny is going to leave and find a gym that will take her to worlds.
If you pull Senior Stacy off she'll leave and find another gym.

Wow. I dont see this working out well. I really hope that the USASF can rethink this one...  And I wish FOR ONCE the USASF would see things thru the gym owners perspective. 



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Believe me many of us are ticked off!

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wow... im pissed off. usasf has really f****d worlds up. first people who make day 2 that shouldnt be than people not making day 2 who should be than the rankings and scoring being completely wrong. im about to quit cheerleading. this really screws everyone over. therre are gyms that only have junior 5 and wont be able to have senior 5. worlds isnt suppose to be ''special'' yeah its suppose to be an honor that you ggot that far but really? its a competition just like nca uca cheersport all of them. its not like its your ''first time'' (wink wink) its not special. a lot of people go to WATCH and not compete then end up competing 2 years later anyways. this is so retarded. and completely messed up.

thanks for ruining my season/cheer career

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USASF has been messing up for a long time and now that the age has changed and now they are pulling this little stunt with JR in the next two years when all the gyms have low enrollment and worlds is empty and enrollment is low because all the talented JR decided to go to other sports then USASF will truly see the loss.

 

 I am considering taking my kids to gymnastics at least they have a chance of getting some help with college. Cheerleading has lost it's credibility and with every bad decision they take a hit in the quest to be recognized as a real sport... this year I have seen people quitting that have been doing cheer for 7 years and more, they have no love for cheer, no challenge, everyones a champ just depends on what comps you go to.... it's just sad it really is!



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I have to agree with the "everyones a champ just depends on what comps you go to" comment. I was wondering, is this the case for gymnastics too? Do they have so many competitions to choose from and so many divisions that cater to talent and lack of talent (4.2) like we do in cheer? I wondered if someone who has been in gymnastics could give us a comparison.

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No, gymnastics has one governing body under which all competition that lead to State, Regional, Nationals, and then ultimately Worlds and the Olympics compete under.. Additionally, a gymnast has to qualify to each step from the lower level championship.  So you qualify to Regionals by getting a high enough score at State, and you qualify to Nationals by scoring high enough (or being in the top X number of competitors) at Regionals, and to get to Worlds or the Olympics you have to be one of the best from THE National championship. A gymnast gets ONE meet to qualify up to the next.  No second, third, fourth, fifth chance.  Once you don't make it your season is over.

The difference is that in gymnastics you have the Olympics and a true Worlds governed by one international body.  They allow each country's government to organize one national governing body, for us that responsibility is given to USA Gymnastics (non-profit), to develop the selection process  and choose the representatives of USA at all international competitions.  In cheerleading you have no Olympics or World Championships (ever notice they call it Cheerleading Worlds and not the Cheerleading World Championships?... there is an important distinction).  In gymnastics they don't have hundreds of companies conducting the competitions and proclaiming numerous National champions.  Gymnastic clubs conduct the competitions up to the (one) nationals.  This has the additional benefit of keeping the proceeds of the competitions in your local club which directly benefits your local gymnasts.

Until you have an Olympics in cheerleading you'll have what you have now... companies taking care of themselves and not the sport.  They'll never allow this to happen because it would put all of them out of business.  This why they created the Cheerleading Worlds... to keep control.  That's natural and expected of them.

P.S.  Juniors shouldn't be at Worlds.  In fact, there should not be any age divisions.  Ever see a sport with age divisions at Worlds or the Olympics?  NO.  That is because it is a championship to proclaim who is the best at any age... the only exceptions is that many sports (such as gymnastics) have a minimum age requirement and it has been good for their sport by keeping kids in the sport longer.


-- Edited by 08er on Saturday 13th of June 2009 03:55:04 PM

-- Edited by 08er on Saturday 13th of June 2009 04:00:59 PM

-- Edited by 08er on Saturday 13th of June 2009 05:44:08 PM

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I agree that their should not be any age divisions either. My daughter just turned 11 and missed the cut off for senior. She has her double and is mentally and physically ready for worlds but can't go. Our gym is not sending the jr 5 team and now with the rule change for jrs many teams won't either! I am sure there are a lot of kids in this bracket that will have a very frustrating season because of this. It should be up to the coach ro decide if a girl is ready for worlds not the age. Every child is different and it should be based on an individual basis.... period!! disbelief What a joke!!!

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I just read some interesting info about the Olympics and age. The president of the Olympic committee wanted to raise the age - at least in gymnastics - from 16 to 17 years after the 2008 Games. I didn't research any other sports or if it has actually happened yet or not. The age increase is wanted to keep young athletes from being pushed too hard and too early by crazy coaches. Also, it was said gymnastics is moving towards more powerful type moves which requires the strength found in older athletes.

There is also going to be the first 2010 Youth Summer Olympics and 2012 Youth Winter Olympics. The age requirement is 14 - 18 years. If all star cheer was in the Youth Olympics, many more young athletes wouldn't meet the age requirement.

My thoughts are, would all star cheer want to ever compete in the Youth Olympics if made available? Is it an option worth looking into? It would certainly change the age groups for team levels.







-- Edited by oldcheermom on Sunday 14th of June 2009 06:46:09 PM

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i was thinking...and they need to put in a new division for worlds. individual. cause with less JR teams they will have time for it. or even duo or group. because there are always those 4 or 5 kids on a team that cant go to worlds who are amazing...and make the rules something like if youre already competing with a team than you cant do it. simple. easy. fair. fun.

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How would that be fair? If your not allowing most of the best cheerleaders in the world  to compete? How would you know who the true world champ be?

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I think the crowdleader division should be allowed at worlds. 

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I think parent teams should be allowed at worlds.

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really now? you cant bring that up because then wcss and california bullets and spirit of texas and stingray orange and all them are not true world champions because they dont have everyone in there divisioon from all around the world. and yeah it does make it fair. they get to go with their team and compete. there are people who are amazing but cant be seen because of their location or something.

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Acedad & Nelson: You know its all about the Mascot divison at worlds...Bring it! smile.gif

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Nelson wrote:

I think the crowdleader division should be allowed at worlds. 



Nelson, you are killing me. laughing.gif



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In response to Cheerboyyy:

Taylor from Power Xtreme. I don't know if she still cheers there (but I don't think she does). I quit so I couldn't tell you.

-- Edited by PowerXtremeBaby on Friday 26th of June 2009 05:59:38 AM

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LadyW wrote:

Hey ACE DAD (or anyone else)-- Can you find out if the same process will apply to the new Jr International Dance team as well?



Sorry it took so long, but I had to wait for the final word.

It will be the same.

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Thanks AceDad -- you are awesome....

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