Thanks to 2008CheerFan we can all look at the videos ourselves with open eyes, and the more we look at the videos the more we realize there was something seriously wrong with the judging, and not just with this division. Its easy to say lets just move on and accept that this will always be an issue with our sport, but some of us prefer to point out the mistakes hoping there will someday be changes and SOME kind of accountability. At least we are all in agreement that the only team that deserved to win in this division won.
Hope you all enjoy the videos, a few more will be uploaded later today
Little Kitty (p.o.k) I agree with you. I am guilty of using a team as an example and its wrong because they have no control over the judging. I know I wouldnt like it if my daughters team won or placed and then read on this board all the posts that said they didnt deserve it. I apologize for that, these are all hard working athletes. Its just that there isnt a better way to point out inconsistencies in judging without having others view the videotapes for themselves. Aside from that the other issues (mistakes they admitted to but handled so poorly, and the delay in getting the scoresheets to the coaches so they could evaluate them in time to catch other mistakes) is really inexcusable. There were several competitions this year we went to that were very well attended (even in this bad economy), and there were very few complaints afterwards. Those are the ones most will return to next season. Thank you for your post, you made some very good points.
Yah, I think so too. P.O.K. knows what's going on.
i am not trying to attack teams but honestly this comp was a joke. it seemed teams from LA had it in the hands already. this team took 2ed place in large sr open 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgjPVAl1PhY
MHO... Even with the stunt fall backdraft was better than NCE. I would not call the NCE routine clean. Stunts were shaky through. The tumbling did not even compare to backdraft. NCE had some issue in the pyramid, it was slow and the left side really struggled. NCE had a tumbler touch down.
i am not trying to attack teams but honestly this comp was a joke. it seemed teams from LA had it in the hands already. this team took 2ed place in large sr open 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgjPVAl1PhY
MHO... Even with the stunt fall backdraft was better than NCE. I would not call the NCE routine clean. Stunts were shaky through. The tumbling did not even compare to backdraft. NCE had some issue in the pyramid, it was slow and the left side really struggled. NCE had a tumbler touch down.
NCE didn't place in that category so I'm not sure why you're comparing other teams to them. Can you be confused with North County Elite
i am not trying to attack teams but honestly this comp was a joke. it seemed teams from LA had it in the hands already. this team took 2ed place in large sr open 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgjPVAl1PhY
MHO... Even with the stunt fall backdraft was better than NCE. I would not call the NCE routine clean. Stunts were shaky through. The tumbling did not even compare to backdraft. NCE had some issue in the pyramid, it was slow and the left side really struggled. NCE had a tumbler touch down.
NCE didn't place in that category so I'm not sure why you're comparing other teams to them. Can you be confused with North County Elite
I personally thought North County Elite was REALLY good! I actually thought they were going to win first I mean, Backdraft was good too, in fact, I thought they got the placement they deserved. Everybody, including myself, thought Knight Time was awesome but I was thouroughly impressed with North County Elite.
i am not trying to attack teams but honestly this comp was a joke. it seemed teams from LA had it in the hands already. this team took 2ed place in large sr open 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgjPVAl1PhY
MHO... Even with the stunt fall backdraft was better than NCE. I would not call the NCE routine clean. Stunts were shaky through. The tumbling did not even compare to backdraft. NCE had some issue in the pyramid, it was slow and the left side really struggled. NCE had a tumbler touch down.
NCE didn't place in that category so I'm not sure why you're comparing other teams to them. Can you be confused with North County Elite
I personally thought North County Elite was REALLY good! I actually thought they were going to win first I mean, Backdraft was good too, in fact, I thought they got the placement they deserved. Everybody, including myself, thought Knight Time was awesome but I was thouroughly impressed with North County Elite.
No I am talking about NCE nor cal elite athena. Who yes did very good and I am a fan of NCE. The OP compared then as a clean routine to the Backdraft team who took second. I felt after watching the 2 videos that backdraft was better even with one stunt drop. They competed in Large Senior open L3.
i am not trying to attack teams but honestly this comp was a joke. it seemed teams from LA had it in the hands already. this team took 2ed place in large sr open 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgjPVAl1PhY
MHO... Even with the stunt fall backdraft was better than NCE. I would not call the NCE routine clean. Stunts were shaky through. The tumbling did not even compare to backdraft. NCE had some issue in the pyramid, it was slow and the left side really struggled. NCE had a tumbler touch down.
NCE didn't place in that category so I'm not sure why you're comparing other teams to them. Can you be confused with North County Elite
I personally thought North County Elite was REALLY good! I actually thought they were going to win first I mean, Backdraft was good too, in fact, I thought they got the placement they deserved. Everybody, including myself, thought Knight Time was awesome but I was thouroughly impressed with North County Elite.
No I am talking about NCE nor cal elite athena. Who yes did very good and I am a fan of NCE. The OP compared then as a clean routine to the Backdraft team who took second. I felt after watching the 2 videos that backdraft was better even with one stunt drop. They competed in Large Senior open L3.
I'm not talking about Nor Cal Elite either. I don't think anyone was comparing Nor Cal, you see, they do have the same initials but yeah, we all know Nor Cal didn't place. By the way, I'm a huge fan of Backdrafts, their energy just makes me remember why I love these competitions.
Wow the comp is over lets stop crying about it now. Backdraft has done amazing all season.. All I gotta say is let the HATERS keep on hating cuz thats what they do best. You guys just keep doing your job which is being a great team with a great reputation.
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how about the junior 2 team? nor cal elite did awfully good and ca bullets was also off alot! i dont understand.
No offence to nce but ca jr2 is AMAZING. Actually untouched this year. Maybe you should watch the videos or your eye site.....On a positive note...Great job NCE. Your program was well represented all aorund. Also, Congrats to Titan Elite...You have proven yourself over and over this year. Another team I loved was..... Cheer Cental Suns Youth 3. Too bad about the pyramid. Otherwise that division would have been yours. NO DOUBT!
-- Edited by Rockincheerr on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 12:25:37 PM
-- Edited by Rockincheerr on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 12:27:47 PM
yes but nce's junior 2 is better than firces and is deffenetly better than swat.. but yo have to give swatt propb they have only perfromed 1nce before that
how about the junior 2 team? nor cal elite did awfully good and ca bullets was also off alot! i dont understand.
No offence to nce but ca jr2 is AMAZING. Actually untouched this year. Maybe you should watch the videos or your eye site.....On a positive note...Great job NCE. Your program was well represented all aorund. Also, Congrats to Titan Elite...You have proven yourself over and over this year. Another team I loved was..... Cheer Cental Suns Youth 3. Too bad about the pyramid. Otherwise that division would have been yours. NO DOUBT!
-- Edited by Rockincheerr on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 12:25:37 PM
-- Edited by Rockincheerr on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 12:27:47 PM
Hey everyone, I am the Nor Cal Elite Jr 2 Coach "PANDORA" .. and i would just like to agree with you the Ca bullets jr 2 team was amazing.. there are no hurts feeling there. both teams had a great year. and Pandora was getting 1st place and 2nd most the year. which is overall Great. proud of both team good job again Ca bullets. and loved the 1st stunt sequence
but it looks like they still have some bugs to work out. Right off the bat they have Nor Cal Teams competing against themselves in about three different divisions which I know is not right, their senior team didn't compete against their mini team.
It looks like they really messed up the Nor Cal teams. Electra is their Sr Coed Level 4, and if that is really their score, they should have been in 3rd place instead of Pace? Im confused, but I hope they sort this out because its getting to be embarassing for IALC, wouldnt you say?