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California---it is very apparent you were from cheerforce which explains a lot of the reason you keep going on about this.
Now really what does that have to do with my opinion ? It's really quite insulting that you would insinuate that I do not have a mind of my own.
I see what you are doing here. It's called smoke and mirrors. 

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Finally some one says it. I think its so dumb that people think just your from this place you think this way. Like are you serious. Where you cheer has nothing to go with what you think or how you feel. If you honestly think just because you cheer at a place you have to feel a certain way about other places you seriously have some probems. Just because someone from a place has a problem with someone from another it dosent make that everyones battle.

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she has made her feelings obvious about shawn miller very obvious. being that shawn is now at ca and not cheerforce i believe is where the hatred comes out. Not the hate that he isnt at cheerforce, but just the hatred for him and any gym he might ever be with. How do you think the coaches feel about what youre posting california? maybe a little insulted you wouldnt contact them directly? that you are questioning the decisions that you dont know the stories or facts behind?


anyways, i also would agree that POWER's international was better then their small senior in MY opinion. They put on a great show day two and should be very proud of themselves.

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CaliCheerWatcher wrote:

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California---it is very apparent you were from cheerforce which explains a lot of the reason you keep going on about this.
Now really what does that have to do with my opinion ? It's really quite insulting that you would insinuate that I do not have a mind of my own.
I see what you are doing here. It's called smoke and mirrors. 

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Finally some one says it. I think its so dumb that people think just your from this place you think this way. Like are you serious. Where you cheer has nothing to go with what you think or how you feel. If you honestly think just because you cheer at a place you have to feel a certain way about other places you seriously have some probems. Just because someone from a place has a problem with someone from another it dosent make that everyones battle.

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she has made her feelings obvious about shawn miller very obvious.Actually you have no idea what my feelings are toward Shawn. You are just assuming that I have made them clear. Let me just tell you that I haven't. being that shawn is now at ca and not cheerforce i believe is where the hatred comes out.Once again this is no where near the truth. Not the hate that he isnt at cheerforce, but just the hatred for him and any gym he might ever be with.No you really dont know. How do you think the coaches feel about what youre posting california? maybe a little insulted you wouldnt contact them directly?You seem to be under the delusion that I would care what they think. Now if you want to let this go I am more then willing to drop it.

I have let my opinion be heard and I am satified with my behavior on this board. You apparently are angry with me because I have spoken out against your gym/team/friends IDK for sure but it doesn't really matter to me. that you are questioning the decisions that you dont know the stories or facts behind? Really !


anyways, i also would agree that POWER's international was better then their small senior in MY opinion. They put on a great show day two and should be very proud of themselves.

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if everyone were to hit a perfect routine the scoring would be results would have been different, yes
but they didn't and even if it's a great team, they are only as good as what they do that day

woulda, coulda, shoulda...
but that's just what happened

hope their small senior hits in dallas :]

anyone know if there is a live feed?

honestly wrote:

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CaliCheerWatcher wrote:

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California---it is very apparent you were from cheerforce which explains a lot of the reason you keep going on about this.
Now really what does that have to do with my opinion ? It's really quite insulting that you would insinuate that I do not have a mind of my own.
I see what you are doing here. It's called smoke and mirrors. 

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Finally some one says it. I think its so dumb that people think just your from this place you think this way. Like are you serious. Where you cheer has nothing to go with what you think or how you feel. If you honestly think just because you cheer at a place you have to feel a certain way about other places you seriously have some probems. Just because someone from a place has a problem with someone from another it dosent make that everyones battle.

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she has made her feelings obvious about shawn miller very obvious. being that shawn is now at ca and not cheerforce i believe is where the hatred comes out. Not the hate that he isnt at cheerforce, but just the hatred for him and any gym he might ever be with. How do you think the coaches feel about what youre posting california? maybe a little insulted you wouldnt contact them directly? that you are questioning the decisions that you dont know the stories or facts behind?


anyways, i also would agree that POWER's international was better then their small senior in MY opinion. They put on a great show day two and should be very proud of themselves.

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Honestly:  I understand that you are upset by the comments made by California, however, unless you know for sure this person is from that gym...why start the drama! You obviously have bashed CF on this board plenty of times, and now that California is making an opinion about CA, it's not ok?  What makes it ok to make comments that "CF uniforms look like kids craft projects...and then not comment on what your gyms uniforms look like"?  What makes it ok for you to say that SO CAL was better off on their own....because that's your right to your opionion - right?  Well, than that goes for everyone! Dont get me wrong, I think the CA teams are amazing - regardless of all the opinions on here (which is funny CF wasnt even at this comp and other programs are obviously basing their opionions about CA and now CF is still getting their name thrown in here).  Just because this person might not like the coaches or state their opinion does not automatically mean this person is or was part of CF.  There is obviously plenty of other gyms on here basing their (negative to you opionions). You dont like California stating their opionion about CA obviously...so maybe you should think about the opionions you make about CF !  Everyone has their right to their opionion, whether it be good or bad (never going to go away), again, you give yours, so let this person give thiers! 

Good luck to CA, CF and EVERY CA gym!

I WAS JUST LOOKING ON CA'S WEBSITE... CA-CAMARILLO!!!! WOW-CHECK OUT THEIR AWARDS PAGE.THAT'S INSANE! I LIVE IN THE AREA AND I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW GOOD THIS GYM HAS BECOME...IMPRESSIVE!

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honestly wrote:

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CaliCheerWatcher wrote:

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California---it is very apparent you were from cheerforce which explains a lot of the reason you keep going on about this.
Now really what does that have to do with my opinion ? It's really quite insulting that you would insinuate that I do not have a mind of my own.
I see what you are doing here. It's called smoke and mirrors. 

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Finally some one says it. I think its so dumb that people think just your from this place you think this way. Like are you serious. Where you cheer has nothing to go with what you think or how you feel. If you honestly think just because you cheer at a place you have to feel a certain way about other places you seriously have some probems. Just because someone from a place has a problem with someone from another it dosent make that everyones battle.

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she has made her feelings obvious about shawn miller very obvious. being that shawn is now at ca and not cheerforce i believe is where the hatred comes out. Not the hate that he isnt at cheerforce, but just the hatred for him and any gym he might ever be with. How do you think the coaches feel about what youre posting california? maybe a little insulted you wouldnt contact them directly? that you are questioning the decisions that you dont know the stories or facts behind?


anyways, i also would agree that POWER's international was better then their small senior in MY opinion. They put on a great show day two and should be very proud of themselves.

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Honestly:  I understand that you are upset by the comments made by California, however, unless you know for sure this person is from that gym...why start the drama! I know for sure this is where her child cheered. I even know her name. You obviously have bashed CF on this board plenty of times, and now that California is making an opinion about CA, it's not ok?  What makes it ok to make comments that "CF uniforms look like kids craft projects...and then not comment on what your gyms uniforms look like"? I like to keep it a secret about what gym im affiliated with. If it makes you think any different of me i dont think the cali unis are cute either. I think they look like space suits.  What makes it ok for you to say that SO CAL was better off on their own....because that's your right to your opionion - right?  Well, than that goes for everyone! Dont get me wrong, I think the CA teams are amazing - regardless of all the opinions on here (which is funny CF wasnt even at this comp and other programs are obviously basing their opionions about CA and now CF is still getting their name thrown in here). There name is being thrown in because California was saying why not let the second place team get the spotlight in vegas. Well who was that? cheerforce! Just because this person might not like the coaches or state their opinion does not automatically mean this person is or was part of CF. I know for a fact they were. There is obviously plenty of other gyms on here basing their (negative to you opionions). You dont like California stating their opionion about CA obviously...so maybe you should think about the opionions you make about CF !  Everyone has their right to their opionion, whether it be good or bad (never going to go away), again, you give yours, so let this person give thiers! 

Good luck to CA, CF and EVERY CA gym!

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beofgoodcheer wrote:

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Yikes - enough already P-L-E-A-S-E!!!

Between all the bickering and then responding in bold, and then responses to the comments in bold, and then responses in bold to the responses in bold... Well you get the idea - it's impossible to even follow, not that I even want to at this point.  I am a parent who comes onto the boards to see how all the teams do, to find out all the in and outs of the competition I might have missed, and NOT to read all the bickering back and forth.  It really is getting very tiresome.  

Watching all the posted videos, Congrats to all the teams who participated in this fantastic competition!  Don't let anyone steal your thunder.  Be proud of the team of you're a part of, and continue to represent yourselves well.  

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Cheerz08 wrote:

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CaliCheerWatcher wrote:

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California---it is very apparent you were from cheerforce which explains a lot of the reason you keep going on about this.
Now really what does that have to do with my opinion ? It's really quite insulting that you would insinuate that I do not have a mind of my own.
I see what you are doing here. It's called smoke and mirrors. 

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Finally some one says it. I think its so dumb that people think just your from this place you think this way. Like are you serious. Where you cheer has nothing to go with what you think or how you feel. If you honestly think just because you cheer at a place you have to feel a certain way about other places you seriously have some probems. Just because someone from a place has a problem with someone from another it dosent make that everyones battle.

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she has made her feelings obvious about shawn miller very obvious. being that shawn is now at ca and not cheerforce i believe is where the hatred comes out. Not the hate that he isnt at cheerforce, but just the hatred for him and any gym he might ever be with. How do you think the coaches feel about what youre posting california? maybe a little insulted you wouldnt contact them directly? that you are questioning the decisions that you dont know the stories or facts behind?


anyways, i also would agree that POWER's international was better then their small senior in MY opinion. They put on a great show day two and should be very proud of themselves.

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Honestly:  I understand that you are upset by the comments made by California, however, unless you know for sure this person is from that gym...why start the drama! I know for sure this is where her child cheered. I even know her name.Yes my child did cheer at CF and if you were to go through my posting history you would have known that, as well as my name.I'm not hiding anything and if you want to use my first name on here I have no problem with that. You obviously have bashed CF on this board plenty of times, and now that California is making an opinion about CA, it's not ok?  What makes it ok to make comments that "CF uniforms look like kids craft projects...and then not comment on what your gyms uniforms look like"? I like to keep it a secret about what gym im affiliated with.

Pot meet Kettle.

If it makes you think any different of me i dont think the cali unis are cute either. I think they look like space suits.Now I actually like the Sen. 5 uniforms.  What makes it ok for you to say that SO CAL was better off on their own....because that's your right to your opionion - right?  Well, than that goes for everyone! Dont get me wrong, I think the CA teams are amazing - regardless of all the opinions on here (which is funny CF wasnt even at this comp and other programs are obviously basing their opionions about CA and now CF is still getting their name thrown in here). There name is being thrown in because California was saying why not let the second place team get the spotlight in vegas. Well who was that? cheerforce! WRONG... Actually CheerForce got 3rd place in Vegas, and this a direct quote of what I said and to whom I said it to.

NCE MOM

Okay so apparently we have cross posted. Now I will quote your answer to me here so that I may reply to you.

My question was
Why did California Allstars Sm Coed enter a bid division in Vegas when they had no intention of going to worlds ?
Your reply was
because they would rather compete against people and win then not compete against anyone and win. stop complaining they gave you a bid, you should be happy

So my reply to you is this
They were wrong to do this because:

1. When a gym chooses to enter a worlds category it is for the SOLE purpose of competing for a "Worlds Bid" American Championships created a "NON Worlds Division" for teams NOT competing for a Worlds Bid.

2. The 2nd place team which should have been the first place team was unable to celebrate their moment because California Allstars were intentionaly entered into the wrong category because as you said,"They didn't want to compete by themselves."

This is beyond selfish.
   Just because this person might not like the coaches or state their opinion does not automatically mean this person is or was part of CF. I know for a fact they were.YES...you got this one correct.  There is obviously plenty of other gyms on here basing their (negative to you opionions). You dont like California stating their opionion about CA obviously...so maybe you should think about the opionions you make about CF !  Everyone has their right to their opionion, whether it be good or bad (never going to go away), again, you give yours, so let this person give thiers! 

Good luck to CA, CF and EVERY CA gym!
You obviously have bashed CF on this board plenty of times, and now that California is making an opinion about CA, it's not ok?  What makes it ok to make comments that "CF uniforms look like kids craft projects...and then not comment on what your gyms uniforms look like"?

The above is a good point and I wish I would have thought about it. (sigh)

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cheerguru wrote:

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Official Cheer Memorandum

02/12/09

To:  California and CheerForce

From:  The rest of the cheerleading world


We are over your drama.  Your failure to drop it makes you look silly.  You can win every competition in the world but you ruin it by coming on here and looking silly.  We within the rest of the cheerleading world would suggest you just stop responding and move on.  

 

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omg thank you! this is beyond ridiculous! can we move on?!