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As a parent, if my daughter wanted to pose for Playboy, YES I WOULD SUPPORT HER. If you do watch the GIRLS NEXT DOOR, you would see that these young ladies also work hard. This is (to me) simply modeling nude. Hef didn't make this business as big as it is with attitudes that were like they were in the 20s and 30s. These woman go on to become business women, teachers, and more! They shouldn't ever be embarassed. The womans body is a beautiful thing and is never an embarassment. At least not to me anyway. But then again, I am very very open minded. Maybe a little too much for everyones liking, but this is me. And anything my daughter wants to do, I will be right behind her.
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Yes a womans body is a beautiful thing. That is why I've teaching my daughter to also respect it. Your comments floored me a little. In a society that still treats women like a commodity and sex sells this is not what I want for my kid. Also give me a break using the GIRLS NEXT DOOR as shinning example is ridiculous. Posing nude for playboy what an accomplishment to brag about for the rest of your life. If my daughter came to me and told me that she had posed nude for playboy I would be extremely disapointed in her. Would I love her less no. Would I expess my disapointment hell yes. I usually enjoy reading your post. But on this one you miss the mark. There is a lot I'd like to say but honestly I'm left a little speechless after reading your post.

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Agree 100%.   I'm surprised too, and disappointed. 

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Oh Wow!!  Kids grow up to be like the 'Girls Next Door' and pose for playboy...  What wonderful role models.  

Actually I don't believe the post came from a mom.  No parent would ever hope to have their daughters pose for playboy someday, I think someone is just pulling our leg.

More like a little pervert!

Awh Mommy's calm down, trust me I am a woman and I am a mom and I am far from perverted, But I always say, NEVER NEVER say what you do not want your kids to do and what you will not let them do, for they will have the COVER AND POSSIBLY BE PLAYMATE OF THE YEAR!!!

What you can do is cross that bridge when you get there, life has many twists and turns and you can never say with 100% surety what you will or will not do at any given time. If you child says this is something she wants to do or better yet whan she does not need your permission anymore SHE WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR CHILD AND YOU MAY GO TO THE NEWSSTAND AND BUY ALL THE MAGAZINES TO KEEP YOUR FRIENDS OR FAMILY FROM SEEING THEM BUT YOU WILL BE THERE FOR HERE.


So stop it really, miss me with the holy rode BS, I am not buying.

i understand that i'm not a mom, nor do i fully understand a mother's love for her child (yet... i believe thats one of those things you dont understand until you experience it.)  but i'm going to share my 21 year old point of view.

when a kid moves out, they are forced to make decisions for themselves, right?  the saying "rules are made to be broken" holds true in this discussion.  so many of my friends are "rebelling" against their parents RIGHT NOW, being that they are just turning 21, and free to do as they please.  from what i have noticed, the more their parents say they "cant" do something, the more reason there is to do it! 

personally, i have no rules.  i'm an adult, and my parents respect me in that manner.  but because i have no rules, i have nothing to rebel against.  my mom knows, in detail, everything i do, and the things i'm not so proud of doing.  (we all make mistakes.)  but at 21, i can honestly say i dont party outrageously, i'm not promiscuous, and i take very good care of my body and my health.

my parents never used the word can't.  they (both mom and dad) have left every topic (sex, drugs, alcohol, porn, gangs, violence, parties, etc....) open for honest discussion, no matter how old we were.  most of the time these questions we had growing up were discussed over sunday dinner.  but the bottom line is no matter how much you think you shield your child, these things are out there, and their friends are experimenting.  and the best way my parents prevented us from following the crowd, was TALKING about it, and not just saying "you can't do that.  i won't allow it."  because once we walk out that door, we make decisions for ourselves.  thats the real world.

Be disappointed all you want. It just makes me giggle at how people are so strong hiding behind being anonymous. I am never ashamed of my beautiful daughter and should she decide to do ANYTHING she wants so long as it's not illegal, I am there right by her side.

Just because others have different views than I do, I don't get "disappointed" in them. But hey, I'm also not hiding my face either. You don't have to agree with me. And I'm actually glad you don't. If we all agreed, the world would be boring. I asked my daughter what she thought about it and she said that she wouldn't do that cause she didn't think it would help her in her career choice. "Not too many people are so open-minded mom. It probably wouldn't be a good idea." Now THAT'S an intelligent response if you ask me. And look, I didn't have to tell her no.

And I didn't even HAVE to tell her that "I would murder her."

Now THAT kind of disappoints me.

AMAC: It is apparent that your parents are good parents. Giving your child the facts allows them to make responsible decisions. And you are living proof of this. I have a son your age and another who is over 18. BOTH of them have made great decisions in life. So don't worry about the negative comments. You three are role models that most parents only PRAY their children turn out like. I am soooooooo very proud of you and support your decisions. And should you make mistakes, you know who you can count on.

And to those who disagree with me, I pray that you are happy and healthy. That's all we can hope for in life and even though we don't agree or that you are disappointed in me, I still support your decision to raise your child how you chose to.


-- Edited by OC Mom at 22:51, 2008-07-18

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There is a difference between telling your daughter she can't do something and not respecting or supporting her decision. I know at 18 my daughter will be free to make her own decisions. But I'll be sure to let her know how I feel about it if it's something I don't support.

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I wasn't hiding behind anonymous, I was just too lazy to log in.  I stand by my statement above, I would be sure to let my daughter know if I did not support her decision to do something.  Again, would I love her less or would I not be there for her?  Of course not.  But with every bad decision there are consequences, and her knowing I did not agree at all with her choice would be one of them.  Using the GGW example, I assume, OC Mom, if she decided to participate in that your response would be that's fine as long as it's not illegal.  My response would be you're old enough to make your own decisions and I can't stop you from doing that,  however I don't support or respect this particular decision.   The argument of "my daughter would never do that because she has learned to make good choices" is not what this discussion is about.  It's about when they make bad choices, where do you draw the line in your support of those decisions.    Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now and agree to disagree on this one. 

 

I thought about this all night last night. I have to admit, it hurt my feelings to be told I was wrong. But people have been told they were wrong since the beginning of time. So I guess I have to let it roll off my back and get over it.

So this morning, Em was sitting in the kitchen. I read off the posts, one by one, in a tone that sounded kind. (you know how the printed word can come out wrong sometimes) I didn't want to put my own opinion over anyone elses.

She just sat there and listened and I was watching her reaction. She had absolutely none. After I was done reading she just looked at me and said, "I wonder what they're afraid of?" I just kinda shrugged and said, "Well, I guess it's never really been appriopriate for women to show their bodies." She said, "Yea, some women die if they show anything but their eyes and we all try and tell THEM that THEY'RE wrong too." I kinda thought and then said, "Very true."

She then said, "Why would you even argue this issue anyway?" I didn't really have an answer to that. I said, "I guess at first I was just stating my opinion but then it became more of a discussion." She said, "You knew they wouldn't agree with you. You knew you would get people telling you that you were crazy. It's like arguing the cheerleading issue with a soccer mom or a gymnastics mom. You're pretty much not gonna get anywhere. Besides, now people are gonna think I'm gonna pose nude or something." I told her that I really don't think anyone thinks that. "Its not the point if you will do it or not... it's the point if I support you or not." She said, " Well, for the record, I'm not gonna pose nude for anything but even if I IDID do it, I already know that you would be my one supporter and that's really all that matters." And she got up from the table.

I just sat there.

And as she walked out of the room, she said, "What other crazy parent would sit thru 8 years of cheer practice anyway???"

And we both laughed.

So, agree with me or not, Im my heart of hearts, my kid is doing GREAT. I think I've taught her well. And I guess THAT'S all that really matters. It's not the battles that you win in life, it's the war.

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As a woman, I am so understanding of this, when I was young I used to think, I would never pose for Playboy or let one of my kids. Now that I have grown up I know that we woman have so little time to enjoy and appreciate our bodies that if you got it, WHILE you got it flaunt it....


I know that sounds crazy, but, I am a crazy mother of three future Playboy Covergirls

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Unbelievable

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