Kids Leaving allstars and Pop Warner for High School Cheer

Date: Fri Jul 11 10:28 AM, 2008

RE: Kids Leaving allstars and Pop Warner for High School Cheer

Date: Fri Jul 11 10:28 AM, 2008

Go ahead hate if you must but I was a cheerleader in high school it was the best everything you would guess and them some. Always invited to all the best parties the magic of Friday nights with football season the pick of all the best guys in school. Their was statice in dating a cheerleader. It was a blast. If my daughter wants to leave allstar in highschool so be it. I would hope she has the same experince I had.

Date: Fri Jul 11 10:37 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Go ahead hate if you must but I was a cheerleader in high school it was the best everything you would guess and them some. Always invited to all the best parties the magic of Friday nights with football season the pick of all the best guys in school. Their was statice in dating a cheerleader. It was a blast. If my daughter wants to leave allstar in highschool so be it. I would hope she has the same experince I had.

First off I'm not hating here. I just felt the need to reply to your post. It's wonderful you have so many wonderful memories from your high school years. But being the popular girl who is invited to all the best parties and dating all the cute guys is not exactly the best example of how to get people to take cheer more seriously and treat it as the sport it is. My kids refer to most High School Cheerleaders as Rah Rahs. Most of the kids that spend endless hours in the gym improving thier skills would agree it's not about parties and boys. I quess this is the big difference between High School and All Stars.

Date: Fri Jul 11 10:53 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Go ahead hate if you must but I was a cheerleader in high school it was the best everything you would guess and them some. Always invited to all the best parties the magic of Friday nights with football season the pick of all the best guys in school. Their was statice in dating a cheerleader. It was a blast. If my daughter wants to leave allstar in highschool so be it. I would hope she has the same experince I had.

First off I'm not hating here. I just felt the need to reply to your post. It's wonderful you have so many wonderful memories from your high school years. But being the popular girl who is invited to all the best parties and dating all the cute guys is not exactly the best example of how to get people to take cheer more seriously and treat it as the sport it is. My kids refer to most High School Cheerleaders as Rah Rahs. Most of the kids that spend endless hours in the gym improving thier skills would agree it's not about parties and boys. I quess this is the big difference between High School and All Stars.

Unfortunately this is the stereotype that both High School and All Stars has to live down.

Date: Fri Jul 11 11:13 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Go ahead hate if you must but I was a cheerleader in high school it was the best everything you would guess and them some. Always invited to all the best parties the magic of Friday nights with football season the pick of all the best guys in school. Their was statice in dating a cheerleader. It was a blast. If my daughter wants to leave allstar in highschool so be it. I would hope she has the same experince I had.

First off I'm not hating here. I just felt the need to reply to your post. It's wonderful you have so many wonderful memories from your high school years. But being the popular girl who is invited to all the best parties and dating all the cute guys is not exactly the best example of how to get people to take cheer more seriously and treat it as the sport it is. My kids refer to most High School Cheerleaders as Rah Rahs. Most of the kids that spend endless hours in the gym improving thier skills would agree it's not about parties and boys. I quess this is the big difference between High School and All Stars.

Unfortunately this is the stereotype that both High School and All Stars has to live down.

There are plenty of girls that do High School cheer because they love it as much as your All Star cheerleaders. Yes they also love the social rewards you get by cheering in High School. It is fun being involved in school activities an feeling like you belong. Is it a popularity contest? Yes sometimes it is, but I hate it when people stereotype others. Being invited to the best parties and getting cute guys is not why they cheer. I dont think you would last very long if that was your only priority. I agree comments like the one above do nothing to legitimize cheer as a sport. Cheerleading is hard work and most girls I know take a lot of pride in their teams and themselves. biggrin

Date: Fri Jul 11 11:48 AM, 2008

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Anonymous wrote:
My question: How can a school that calls their cheer program a "club" dictate what a "club" member does on their own free time? Most girls on high school dance teams are encouraged to be involved with dance studios. They also compete with those studios. I can't help but think it's an ego thing with some (not all) high school coaches.

They can't. Which is why it blows me away when Parents are okay with this. Who's to say what your child can do on their own free time? All its going to take is a parent grabbing a lawyer and taking it to the school board and telling them that what their child does on their free time is their business.
I agree. The kids should be able to do both if their schedule and the wallet allows.

Date: Fri Jul 11 12:44 PM, 2008

Ok I feel that I need to speak up on behalf of both All star cheer and High school cheer. First off where I live (in the valley) our pop warner teams when I was the "pop warner" age were not very competitive nor were they very good. One team had a "decent" reputation but even at that age I wanted to be on a good team but have fun at the same time. "Decent" wasn't an option so I joined our local all-star cheer team. Here I was a little 5th grader, no previous cheer experience, no tumbling experience and def no flying experience. So for 5th and 6th grade I did one all star team and switched to another one for 7th and 8th grade. Yes I did love it but of coarse I wanted to go with another bigger more exciting team so for 9th and 10th grade I was with another more well known all star team. My skills improved so much from the time I first started till the time I was in the 10th grade. But I can't credit all-star completely, but instead credit that LAST all-star team I was on. They were the ones to push me and have the coaching styles that worked best for me. But with that came even more practice time (extra tumbling classes) and a commute since the gym was about a half an hour from my house. I didn't mind but as a high school student, I have homework, school activities and a little social life!!! So my Junior year was coming and it was too hard to keep up with the all-star team. Yes practices were only twice a week but with my extra tumbling class (sometimes two) and with practices always being in the evening I just felt that it was too much for me to handle so I went to my high school team for what was supposed to only be for one year. I ended up loving it and so I stayed there and now I'm getting ready to cheer for them for my Senior year.
My point is that I never loved one more than the other...THERE ARE ADVANTAGES TO BOTH!!! If you've never done both, you have no room to talk and if your "Mom" did one and hates the other based on her past experience, chances are that times have WAY CHANGED since then so really you have no room to talk either. Speaking from actual experience (and it's not just me either because there are like 10 of us that came from all-star this year alone) I have found that the pros to all-star are; focusing on the same routine, being at your accurate level of your skill, having the opportunity to grow as a family since you can start at such and early age and end at such an older age, the bonds you make with these girls because you have cheered with them since you were like 4 or 5 years old, better facilities, always having a place to practice, participating in some of the best competitions in the state as well as in the world. These are all great reasons to stay with all-star.
Pro's to High school; actually getting to use your choreography skills and teach routines to your team mates, being involved in school activities first hand since the pep squad is usually asked to be at all different events, going to cheer camp and having the time of your life, making friends that are actually your own age and getting to see them on a regular basis, having more time for homework and HAVING to keep your grades since most high schools have a no F and above a 2.0gpa rule, cheering and performing in front of your peers at both games and rallies, the excitement of making playoffs or even homecoming events where the stands are packed, doing side line dances and stunts that are similar to a lot of colleges out there, always learning new material for a new half time routine, gaining experience with not just dance but with cheering on your crowd with signs and megaphones and other spirit items (our coach makes us do this because he feels school spirit is our #1 priority when we are not on the comp floor) and of coarse still getting to compete if your high school team is a comp cheer team.
So you see there are pro's to both all-star and high school and they can not compete with each other. High school cheer will NEVER be all-star cheer and all star cheer will NEVER be high school cheer, they are different. I used to be one of those girls that talked down about high school till I got there and I now respect both. My high school team competes intermediate however this year my coach is pushing us to get our skills down so we can try going advanced for at least one or two comps this year. We do have a tumbling coach so our skills are still getting used and pushed to help us get better.
To answer your question on how to get girls to stop leaving all star, you can't. Like I said it's up to the cheerleader to see what she wants to do. There are pros and cons to both and like I said earlier they don't compare to one another. So please just respect the fact that they are different and that both are good and don't take it so personnal when someone leaves one for the other.

THANK YOU! smile

Date: Fri Jul 11 12:51 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
My question: How can a school that calls their cheer program a "club" dictate what a "club" member does on their own free time? Most girls on high school dance teams are encouraged to be involved with dance studios. They also compete with those studios. I can't help but think it's an ego thing with some (not all) high school coaches.

They can't. Which is why it blows me away when Parents are okay with this. Who's to say what your child can do on their own free time? All its going to take is a parent grabbing a lawyer and taking it to the school board and telling them that what their child does on their free time is their business.

Already has happened in other states. Just waiting for the parent or parent(s) to step up and pursue this. Lawsuits have been filed before. I am not sure why parents haven't done anything in this area about. I mean it is Northern CAlifornia, people are so liberal so why not take this on haha

Honestly I think they need to make high school cheer an official sport so they can LIMIT the amount of competitions they go to and when they can practice. They do this in the state of Georgia, West Virgina and Nevada. It really helps regulate the school cheerleading arena so those coaches/advisors don't get out of control like some have already gotten.

Date: Fri Jul 11 12:54 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There was a mom at our last gym that was obsessed with her daughter making her High School Team. Mind you this started way back when her child was in pop warner. In sixth grade they swiched to All Stars. Not so much that she wanted to be an All Star just that it was a way to prepare her so she could be the best when she did tryout. This included privates with a special tumbling coach, and extra classes at her own gym. She is an ok tumbler, and can throw up to a tuck, but her form is not all that great. Mom raised holy cain when her daughter was not used as a flyer at one gym and switched to another gym close by. When they did not let her fly right away she raised and even bigger fuss and I think the coach finally gave in and let her fly. She was not the worse flyer, but not the star her mom thought she was. I have seen some cheer moms, but this lady really gave all us cheer parents a bad name. She was possessed into grooming her for High School Cheer, and I think she wanted it a heck of a lot more then her daughter did. Well the daughter is going to be a freshman next year and yes she did make the JV team. Her mom is walking around bragging and it makes me feel ill. She is living thru her daughter to live out her fantasy of what she wanted but never had as a kid. I think its really sad.

See this is one of the problems with the mom living there dreams through the kids. My suggestion to all parents let the kids have fun and cheer iwhere they are happy. Coaches should never allow the parents to control what happen with the team. As a cheer parent I pay the bill and let the coach do all of the coaching. Every coach know what skill the kids have mastered and what is the best spot for them on the team. There is no I in team so parents get with it and stop crying about the spot your child get on the team. As long as there is no favoritism then let them cheer and have fun

I'm serious half of the reason most of the girls even tryout is their parents, pushing them to do it for "bragging rights". Seriously get over it and yourself. Let your daughter be happy at what SHE wants to do.

Date: Fri Jul 11 12:57 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Go ahead hate if you must but I was a cheerleader in high school it was the best everything you would guess and them some. Always invited to all the best parties the magic of Friday nights with football season the pick of all the best guys in school. Their was statice in dating a cheerleader. It was a blast. If my daughter wants to leave allstar in highschool so be it. I would hope she has the same experince I had.

Ok, PLEASE!!!! I coach several schools and love them all to death but the majority of them are not the CREAM OF CROP for popularity. They inivite WHO they want to , not just cause your in a skirt. This isn't Saved by the Bell with Kelly and Lisa going to the Friday night game and invited back to Slaters house for a bash. Get your mind out of the 80's and 90s. Soo not like that anymore. People like you for who you are, not the skirt that is on. "wear the skirt to flirt"

Date: Fri Jul 11 4:29 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

There was a mom at our last gym that was obsessed with her daughter making her High School Team. Mind you this started way back when her child was in pop warner. In sixth grade they swiched to All Stars. Not so much that she wanted to be an All Star just that it was a way to prepare her so she could be the best when she did tryout. This included privates with a special tumbling coach, and extra classes at her own gym. She is an ok tumbler, and can throw up to a tuck, but her form is not all that great. Mom raised holy cain when her daughter was not used as a flyer at one gym and switched to another gym close by. When they did not let her fly right away she raised and even bigger fuss and I think the coach finally gave in and let her fly. She was not the worse flyer, but not the star her mom thought she was. I have seen some cheer moms, but this lady really gave all us cheer parents a bad name. She was possessed into grooming her for High School Cheer, and I think she wanted it a heck of a lot more then her daughter did. Well the daughter is going to be a freshman next year and yes she did make the JV team. Her mom is walking around bragging and it makes me feel ill. She is living thru her daughter to live out her fantasy of what she wanted but never had as a kid. I think its really sad.

OH MY GOODNESS, I know EXACTLY what mom you are talking about! haha. If its not the same mom, I would be shocked!

techeergirl · Member

i did highschool cheer for my freshman year because my parents made me. i hated every minute of it. sure all the boys look at you cuz you looked cute in your uniform but highschool cheer was aboslute torture for me. i counted down everyday until i could go back to allstar. my highschool team was supposedly competitive but to me they didn't really work hard at all.

Date: Fri Jul 11 4:52 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There was a mom at our last gym that was obsessed with her daughter making her High School Team. Mind you this started way back when her child was in pop warner. In sixth grade they swiched to All Stars. Not so much that she wanted to be an All Star just that it was a way to prepare her so she could be the best when she did tryout. This included privates with a special tumbling coach, and extra classes at her own gym. She is an ok tumbler, and can throw up to a tuck, but her form is not all that great. Mom raised holy cain when her daughter was not used as a flyer at one gym and switched to another gym close by. When they did not let her fly right away she raised and even bigger fuss and I think the coach finally gave in and let her fly. She was not the worse flyer, but not the star her mom thought she was. I have seen some cheer moms, but this lady really gave all us cheer parents a bad name. She was possessed into grooming her for High School Cheer, and I think she wanted it a heck of a lot more then her daughter did. Well the daughter is going to be a freshman next year and yes she did make the JV team. Her mom is walking around bragging and it makes me feel ill. She is living thru her daughter to live out her fantasy of what she wanted but never had as a kid. I think its really sad.

OH MY GOODNESS, I know EXACTLY what mom you are talking about! haha. If its not the same mom, I would be shocked!

Keep shooting for the stars, local JV team. LOL

Date: Fri Jul 11 4:54 PM, 2008

To me all stars is not about just the competition. People keep saying "my high school competes" like that means they are just like an all star team. An all star team is comprised of kids from all over, not just your neighborhood and its fun meeting new people and their sole focus is to be the best at what they do. Also the parents and athlets are driven a little bit differently. The competitions are nice and all star teams are cutting edge in uniforms, music and just overall appeal. Just comparing apples to oranges.

Date: Fri Jul 11 5:07 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There was a mom at our last gym that was obsessed with her daughter making her High School Team.Mind you this started way back when her child was in pop warner.In sixth grade they swiched to All Stars.Not so much that she wanted to be an All Star just that it was a way to prepare her so she could be the best when she did tryout.This included privates with a special tumbling coach, and extra classes at her own gym.She is an ok tumbler, and can throw up to a tuck, but her form is not all that great.Mom raised holy cain when her daughter was not used as a flyer at one gym and switched to another gym close by.When they did not let her fly right away she raised and even bigger fuss and I think the coach finally gave in and let her fly.She was not the worse flyer, but not the star her mom thought she was. I have seen some cheer moms, but this lady really gave all us cheer parents a bad name.She was possessed into grooming her for High School Cheer, and I think she wanted it a heck of a lot more then her daughter did.Well the daughter is going to be a freshman next year and yes she did make the JV team.Her mom is walking around bragging and it makes me feel ill. She is living thru her daughter to live out her fantasy of what she wanted but never had as a kid.I think its really sad.

OH MY GOODNESS, I know EXACTLY what mom you are talking about! haha. If its not the same mom, I would be shocked!

I think I know who this is too, she was the most negative parent I've ever met in my life, and our gym was thrilled when she left. I always felt sorry for her daughter. Good luck to all the new parents who will have to deal with her.

Date: Fri Jul 11 7:05 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Ok I feel that I need to speak up on behalf of both All star cheer and High school cheer. First off where I live (in the valley) our pop warner teams when I was the "pop warner" age were not very competitive nor were they very good. One team had a "decent" reputation but even at that age I wanted to be on a good team but have fun at the same time. "Decent" wasn't an option so I joined our local all-star cheer team. Here I was a little 5th grader, no previous cheer experience, no tumbling experience and def no flying experience. So for 5th and 6th grade I did one all star team and switched to another one for 7th and 8th grade. Yes I did love it but of coarse I wanted to go with another bigger more exciting team so for 9th and 10th grade I was with another more well known all star team. My skills improved so much from the time I first started till the time I was in the 10th grade. But I can't credit all-star completely, but instead credit that LAST all-star team I was on. They were the ones to push me and have the coaching styles that worked best for me. But with that came even more practice time (extra tumbling classes) and a commute since the gym was about a half an hour from my house. I didn't mind but as a high school student, I have homework, school activities and a little social life!!! So my Junior year was coming and it was too hard to keep up with the all-star team. Yes practices were only twice a week but with my extra tumbling class (sometimes two) and with practices always being in the evening I just felt that it was too much for me to handle so I went to my high school team for what was supposed to only be for one year. I ended up loving it and so I stayed there and now I'm getting ready to cheer for them for my Senior year.
My point is that I never loved one more than the other...THERE ARE ADVANTAGES TO BOTH!!! If you've never done both, you have no room to talk and if your "Mom" did one and hates the other based on her past experience, chances are that times have WAY CHANGED since then so really you have no room to talk either. Speaking from actual experience (and it's not just me either because there are like 10 of us that came from all-star this year alone) I have found that the pros to all-star are; focusing on the same routine, being at your accurate level of your skill, having the opportunity to grow as a family since you can start at such and early age and end at such an older age, the bonds you make with these girls because you have cheered with them since you were like 4 or 5 years old, better facilities, always having a place to practice, participating in some of the best competitions in the state as well as in the world. These are all great reasons to stay with all-star.
Pro's to High school; actually getting to use your choreography skills and teach routines to your team mates, being involved in school activities first hand since the pep squad is usually asked to be at all different events, going to cheer camp and having the time of your life, making friends that are actually your own age and getting to see them on a regular basis, having more time for homework and HAVING to keep your grades since most high schools have a no F and above a 2.0gpa rule, cheering and performing in front of your peers at both games and rallies, the excitement of making playoffs or even homecoming events where the stands are packed, doing side line dances and stunts that are similar to a lot of colleges out there, always learning new material for a new half time routine, gaining experience with not just dance but with cheering on your crowd with signs and megaphones and other spirit items (our coach makes us do this because he feels school spirit is our #1 priority when we are not on the comp floor) and of coarse still getting to compete if your high school team is a comp cheer team.
So you see there are pro's to both all-star and high school and they can not compete with each other. High school cheer will NEVER be all-star cheer and all star cheer will NEVER be high school cheer, they are different. I used to be one of those girls that talked down about high school till I got there and I now respect both. My high school team competes intermediate however this year my coach is pushing us to get our skills down so we can try going advanced for at least one or two comps this year. We do have a tumbling coach so our skills are still getting used and pushed to help us get better.
To answer your question on how to get girls to stop leaving all star, you can't. Like I said it's up to the cheerleader to see what she wants to do. There are pros and cons to both and like I said earlier they don't compare to one another. So please just respect the fact that they are different and that both are good and don't take it so personnal when someone leaves one for the other.

THANK YOU!

I enjoyed your post for the different perspectives. Thank you for taking the time to post it.

Date: Fri Jul 11 8:26 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There was a mom at our last gym that was obsessed with her daughter making her High School Team. Mind you this started way back when her child was in pop warner. In sixth grade they swiched to All Stars. Not so much that she wanted to be an All Star just that it was a way to prepare her so she could be the best when she did tryout. This included privates with a special tumbling coach, and extra classes at her own gym. She is an ok tumbler, and can throw up to a tuck, but her form is not all that great. Mom raised holy cain when her daughter was not used as a flyer at one gym and switched to another gym close by. When they did not let her fly right away she raised and even bigger fuss and I think the coach finally gave in and let her fly. She was not the worse flyer, but not the star her mom thought she was. I have seen some cheer moms, but this lady really gave all us cheer parents a bad name. She was possessed into grooming her for High School Cheer, and I think she wanted it a heck of a lot more then her daughter did. Well the daughter is going to be a freshman next year and yes she did make the JV team. Her mom is walking around bragging and it makes me feel ill. She is living thru her daughter to live out her fantasy of what she wanted but never had as a kid. I think its really sad.

OH MY GOODNESS, I know EXACTLY what mom you are talking about! haha. If its not the same mom, I would be shocked!

Keep shooting for the stars, local JV team. LOL

this is a mom from a sacramento-ish team right?

Date: Fri Jul 11 8:38 PM, 2008

I think this kind of mom/parent exists at more than one gym. It sounds a lot like one that used to be at our gym but she is not in the sacramento area.

Amac · Veteran Member

one thing i learned when i stopped competing and started coaching is the importance of the saying "different strokes for different folks." all star cheer isn't for every kid, just like high school cheer isn't for every kid.

one reason. (and please dont take this negatively at all.) you have a jr. in high school who is considered a level 2 athlete by all star standards, but attends a school with a decent cheer program (not the greatest, but not too shabby.) she has a back handspring, decently clean jumps, pretty good stunting technique, etc. now, in an all star program, she may make a level 3 team depending on talent at that gym, but lets say for kicks she's put on a level 2 team. now with little susie's back handspring, she makes what she may consider her gyms lowest level senior team, but at high school she could make her varsity team with that same back handspring. maybe its a self esteem thing, in her mind, "lowest level vs. highest level."

another reason. same girl, same back handspring, same stunting. on a level 2 team, she'll never do a twisting cradle, or base a single leg extended stunt. on her varsity team, she could work double downs or base what would be considered "better stunts" in her mind. maybe stunting is her favorite part of cheer.

maybe she just enjoys painting posters, performing at rallies, yelling for her football team, or decorating for homecoming. who knows, but the ball rolls both ways.

maybe she'll chose the all star team because she hates football games or because she hates learning a different routine for each rally, or hates wearing her uniform on game days.

and i could go on and on for many different circumstances for many different level athletes. "different strokes for different folks." as long as the kids happy and s/he learns something useful. after all, that's kinda the point isn't it?

Date: Sat Jul 12 12:03 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ok I feel that I need to speak up on behalf of both All star cheer and High school cheer. First off where I live (in the valley) our pop warner teams when I was the "pop warner" age were not very competitive nor were they very good. One team had a "decent" reputation but even at that age I wanted to be on a good team but have fun at the same time. "Decent" wasn't an option so I joined our local all-star cheer team. Here I was a little 5th grader, no previous cheer experience, no tumbling experience and def no flying experience. So for 5th and 6th grade I did one all star team and switched to another one for 7th and 8th grade. Yes I did love it but of coarse I wanted to go with another bigger more exciting team so for 9th and 10th grade I was with another more well known all star team. My skills improved so much from the time I first started till the time I was in the 10th grade. But I can't credit all-star completely, but instead credit that LAST all-star team I was on. They were the ones to push me and have the coaching styles that worked best for me. But with that came even more practice time (extra tumbling classes) and a commute since the gym was about a half an hour from my house. I didn't mind but as a high school student, I have homework, school activities and a little social life!!! So my Junior year was coming and it was too hard to keep up with the all-star team. Yes practices were only twice a week but with my extra tumbling class (sometimes two) and with practices always being in the evening I just felt that it was too much for me to handle so I went to my high school team for what was supposed to only be for one year. I ended up loving it and so I stayed there and now I'm getting ready to cheer for them for my Senior year.
My point is that I never loved one more than the other...THERE ARE ADVANTAGES TO BOTH!!! If you've never done both, you have no room to talk and if your "Mom" did one and hates the other based on her past experience, chances are that times have WAY CHANGED since then so really you have no room to talk either. Speaking from actual experience (and it's not just me either because there are like 10 of us that came from all-star this year alone) I have found that the pros to all-star are; focusing on the same routine, being at your accurate level of your skill, having the opportunity to grow as a family since you can start at such and early age and end at such an older age, the bonds you make with these girls because you have cheered with them since you were like 4 or 5 years old, better facilities, always having a place to practice, participating in some of the best competitions in the state as well as in the world. These are all great reasons to stay with all-star.
Pro's to High school; actually getting to use your choreography skills and teach routines to your team mates, being involved in school activities first hand since the pep squad is usually asked to be at all different events, going to cheer camp and having the time of your life, making friends that are actually your own age and getting to see them on a regular basis, having more time for homework and HAVING to keep your grades since most high schools have a no F and above a 2.0gpa rule, cheering and performing in front of your peers at both games and rallies, the excitement of making playoffs or even homecoming events where the stands are packed, doing side line dances and stunts that are similar to a lot of colleges out there, always learning new material for a new half time routine, gaining experience with not just dance but with cheering on your crowd with signs and megaphones and other spirit items (our coach makes us do this because he feels school spirit is our #1 priority when we are not on the comp floor) and of coarse still getting to compete if your high school team is a comp cheer team.
So you see there are pro's to both all-star and high school and they can not compete with each other. High school cheer will NEVER be all-star cheer and all star cheer will NEVER be high school cheer, they are different. I used to be one of those girls that talked down about high school till I got there and I now respect both. My high school team competes intermediate however this year my coach is pushing us to get our skills down so we can try going advanced for at least one or two comps this year. We do have a tumbling coach so our skills are still getting used and pushed to help us get better.
To answer your question on how to get girls to stop leaving all star, you can't. Like I said it's up to the cheerleader to see what she wants to do. There are pros and cons to both and like I said earlier they don't compare to one another. So please just respect the fact that they are different and that both are good and don't take it so personnal when someone leaves one for the other.

THANK YOU!

Did your team go to worlds this year and did like all but three of the girls on your worlds team quit to go to high school cheer this year?