What gyms will surprise us...

Date: Mon Jun 30 5:17 PM, 2008

RE: What gyms will surprise us...

Date: Mon Jun 30 5:45 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

I will pass on fierce, there allways talk, but no action.

Yeah, i romrmber hearing alot about how great they were before last season too hmm

Date: Mon Jun 30 7:47 PM, 2008

It is spelt THEIR, not THERE.
Also, it is not "romrmber"... it is REMEMBER!.
Before you start talking about other gyms, learn how to spell first!

Date: Mon Jun 30 7:54 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

It is spelt THEIR, not THERE.
Also, it is not "romrmber"... it is REMEMBER!.
Before you start talking about other gyms, learn how to spell first!

I am actually pretty sure it would be they're. Everyone knows what these people are trying to say so leave them be and stop being so nit picky on such petty things. Anyways, who cares about spelling.

**Everyone on here is entitled to THEIR own opinion. Take it as a grain of salt. You will not always agree with people and they will not always agree with you.

Date: Mon Jun 30 8:18 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:
Everyone knows what these people are trying to say so leave them be and stop being so nit picky on such petty things. Anyways, who cares about spelling.

I disagree. I think in order to be taken seriously you should be able to spell. It is a reflection of your intelligence. Whether it is a typing error or be it you just can't spell; you should take the time to spell or type words correctly if you truly wish to be taken seriously.

JMO

Date: Mon Jun 30 9:00 PM, 2008

AS FOR THE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO PEOPLE CROSS TUMBLING WEST COAST ALLSTARS LAST SEASON HAD CROSS OVER FOR EVERY TEAM AND THEY WERE COMING FROM ALL THIER TEAMS THEY DID HAVE. SO CA IS NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE OUT THAT USE 5 TO 2 OR 2 TO 5. ALL TEAMS WHO CROSS OVER 3 LEVELS IS JUST PLAIN BAD JUDGMENT. MAYBE FOR 1 LEVEL UP OR DOWN IS NOT TO BIG OF A PROBLEM 2 OR 3 LEVELS IS JUST PLAIN WRONG. BUT THEN AGAIN THERE IS NO WAY OF KEEPING TRACK. SOMETIMES I THINK THIER SHOULD NOT EVEN BE CROSSOVERS AT ALL BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.

Date: Tue Jul 1 6:57 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Everyone knows what these people are trying to say so leave them be and stop being so nit picky on such petty things. Anyways, who cares about spelling.

I disagree. I think in order to be taken seriously you should be able to spell. It is a reflection of your intelligence. Whether it is a typing error or be it you just can't spell; you should take the time to spell or type words correctly if you truly wish to be taken seriously.

JMO

I consider myself to be very intelligent. But darn it sometimes the darn keyboard does not want to cooperate. I agree don't take life so serious, and by the way some of the dumbest people I know have high IQ's. biggrin

Date: Tue Jul 1 8:56 AM, 2008

power has a good skill level but as far as coreography, as soon as you see them at worlds, its boring. they might be great in california but as for worlds im not to sure im on the band wagon

Date: Tue Jul 1 9:02 AM, 2008

I would say that about alot of gyms. I love World Cup, Maryland Twisters, Top Gun, and Spirit of Texas choreography.

Date: Tue Jul 1 9:12 AM, 2008

does one athletics have a web site?

Date: Tue Jul 1 9:33 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

does one athletics have a web site?

www.one-athletics.com

Date: Tue Jul 1 9:40 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:
AS FOR THE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO PEOPLE CROSS TUMBLING WEST COAST ALLSTARS LAST SEASON HAD CROSS OVER FOR EVERY TEAM AND THEY WERE COMING FROM ALL THIER TEAMS THEY DID HAVE. SO CA IS NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE OUT THAT USE 5 TO 2 OR 2 TO 5. ALL TEAMS WHO CROSS OVER 3 LEVELS IS JUST PLAIN BAD JUDGMENT. MAYBE FOR 1 LEVEL UP OR DOWN IS NOT TO BIG OF A PROBLEM 2 OR 3 LEVELS IS JUST PLAIN WRONG. BUT THEN AGAIN THERE IS NO WAY OF KEEPING TRACK. SOMETIMES I THINK THIER SHOULD NOT EVEN BE CROSSOVERS AT ALL BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.

I definitely agree. I know sometimes you can not get away from using cross overs due to injuries, etc. But come on I also noticed that West Coast had several kids from their level 4 team crossing over to level 2, 3, etc. That just seems a little unfair especially to those teams that just work hard to be level 2 and get those skills. Oh well hopefully that will improve this season.

Date: Tue Jul 1 10:52 AM, 2008

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Hey, I heard that CA Small Sr. level 5 is great this year!!! WOW I SAW THEM AT PRATICE AND THEY ARE READY FOR A GREAT SEASON ALREADY. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE ALL THE STANDING FULLS ON THE COMP FLOOR 18 OF THEM!!! WOW

Whatever! CA Bullets is great and at the opening of the season they always BUST! Their small senior team's trademark is never tumbling, its dance, clean stunting and fast moving routine. Thats what gets them through. If your going just on on tumbling alone Pro Spirit, Woodlands, ICE, and Rays have them beat. Now they may have recruited some athletes and stepped it up, but from their previous years I can safely bet it will be the same way. I always love their dance sections.

OK i had to reply to this because seeing things like this really irk my nerves; First of all..CA does not always bust in the opening of the season..of course the rotuines arent all flawless..but hey..liek you said it's the openign oof the season..when u have that much talent and skilled jampacked into a routine that hasnt been practiced for months and months..of course there will be mess ups..there always are with the top teams/programs int he beginning of the season. Second of all..if you really wanna get technical on the tumbling bit..they clearly threw 5 gorgeous double fulls in prelims and finals at worlds..your World Champion Rays threw 4..(if you wanna get technical). CA sm sr elite was AMAZiNG last year and yeah im sure "that's what got them through"..all the way to silver? No..they are on top because they are clean and precise at EVERY aspect of their routine..they don't choreograph things that won't hit when it matters (worlds)..they have amazing technique in tumbling stunting motions and choreography..THAT's what gets them through. ANd i will say this once and only once..CA does not nor has it ever "recruited" it's athletes..i've cheered there and worked their..you would be surprised at how many kids call and inquire to join, or email..there is no need for recruited..kids have in the past and will continue to flock from all over the state to be a part of the program. SO you might wanna check that bet of yours..because i can assure you that you are wrong. ;)

Serrell Davis
California Allstars Lrg Coed 08

Date: Tue Jul 1 10:54 AM, 2008

*sorry about the numerous spelling errors lol.

Date: Tue Jul 1 11:03 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

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AS FOR THE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO PEOPLE CROSS TUMBLING WEST COAST ALLSTARS LAST SEASON HAD CROSS OVER FOR EVERY TEAM AND THEY WERE COMING FROM ALL THIER TEAMS THEY DID HAVE. SO CA IS NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE OUT THAT USE 5 TO 2 OR 2 TO 5. ALL TEAMS WHO CROSS OVER 3 LEVELS IS JUST PLAIN BAD JUDGMENT. MAYBE FOR 1 LEVEL UP OR DOWN IS NOT TO BIG OF A PROBLEM 2 OR 3 LEVELS IS JUST PLAIN WRONG. BUT THEN AGAIN THERE IS NO WAY OF KEEPING TRACK. SOMETIMES I THINK THIER SHOULD NOT EVEN BE CROSSOVERS AT ALL BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.

I definitely agree. I know sometimes you can not get away from using cross overs due to injuries, etc. But come on I also noticed that West Coast had several kids from their level 4 team crossing over to level 2, 3, etc. That just seems a little unfair especially to those teams that just work hard to be level 2 and get those skills. Oh well hopefully that will improve this season.

Some of you posters from larger programs may not realize that sometimes the smaller programs must use crossovers in order to fill their team rosters. You most definitely want to have a minimum of 20 on the floor and often times the only way to do that is with crossovers. Sometimes it's bringing talent from a higher level down, and sometimes it's bringing in talent from a lower level team. If you put 15 level 5 cheerleaders out competing against teams with 20, you have almost no chance of competing; but if you bring up 5 cheerleaders from a level 2, 3 or 4 team to fill those 5 remaining spots, it may not be the ideal, but you are definitely more competitive than if you just put 15 on the floor. Plus if you take an entire team down to a lower level, you are not pushing your cheerleaders to strive to obtain and keep their higher level skills.

Date: Tue Jul 1 11:07 AM, 2008

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awww, love Nor Cal Elite, I think they'll be even stronger this year. I will agree with the last post though about Northern CA gyms in general, we do hear a lot of hype year after year and it doesn't always materialize. Let's make this year different. Hope to have more than one gym in the top ten at Worlds, really be competitive with our friends in southern CA.

All of the best tumblers, flyers left NorCal gyms went to SoCal...maybe the NorCal gyms need to invest in better coaching and bring them back

i dont think it has anything to do with the coaching..
i think its just the cheerleaders that left feel that they will be better suited on a higher level team because of the skills they have

like when a lot of guys went to CA its because they have amazing skills and should be on a team where they can show them off

I don't think of its any of that. If you notice they left to go to a LARGE Coed program. Same as people who go to Top Gun their senior year, the same with CA Bullets. The rest of CA Bullets is comparable to every other program in the state.

sorry if i misunderstood but are you saying ca bullets only team that is worthy good talent is their large coed??
if so i completly disagree all three of their worlds teams took home silver and the sm senior divison was much more difficult than unlimited coed

Actually you don't understand what I'm saying. They are the ONLY large coed team in the state. So like most large coed all star teams, top tumbling boys and girls who like that "coed" feeling are flocking to that team. It happens all over. CA wildcats gets kids from all over, TG jags, and CA bullets. Large coed teams attract a wider array of kids. Sorry but CA small senior is good but they placed that way due to hitting their routine, not because a huge skill level difference. If you can't see that then your just blind.

Actually you are blind..alot of teams int hat divsion hit and still were not close to being at the top..im not sure if your aware of how scoring works or the aspects of the routine they look at..but its not abotu who has the most doubles or standing fulls..it's abotu cleanlines..timing..yes skill to..but execution..technique..routine flow..choreography..it all adds in. so maybe you are the one that needs to get your eyes checked. Rays orange have NEVER been the most skilled sm sr allgirl team..tumbling wise and a few other areas..but they hit...theyre very clean...precise motion placement..good choreography and a very well flowing routine..you should study more aspects of allstar cheerleading before you go and make comments liek that because i can assure you..you are wrong.

Date: Tue Jul 1 11:08 AM, 2008

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AS FOR THE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO PEOPLE CROSS TUMBLING WEST COAST ALLSTARS LAST SEASON HAD CROSS OVER FOR EVERY TEAM AND THEY WERE COMING FROM ALL THIER TEAMS THEY DID HAVE. SO CA IS NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE OUT THAT USE 5 TO 2 OR 2 TO 5. ALL TEAMS WHO CROSS OVER 3 LEVELS IS JUST PLAIN BAD JUDGMENT. MAYBE FOR 1 LEVEL UP OR DOWN IS NOT TO BIG OF A PROBLEM 2 OR 3 LEVELS IS JUST PLAIN WRONG. BUT THEN AGAIN THERE IS NO WAY OF KEEPING TRACK. SOMETIMES I THINK THIER SHOULD NOT EVEN BE CROSSOVERS AT ALL BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.

I definitely agree. I know sometimes you can not get away from using cross overs due to injuries, etc. But come on I also noticed that West Coast had several kids from their level 4 team crossing over to level 2, 3, etc. That just seems a little unfair especially to those teams that just work hard to be level 2 and get those skills. Oh well hopefully that will improve this season.

Some of you posters from larger programs may not realize that sometimes the smaller programs must use crossovers in order to fill their team rosters. You most definitely want to have a minimum of 20 on the floor and often times the only way to do that is with crossovers. Sometimes it's bringing talent from a higher level down, and sometimes it's bringing in talent from a lower level team. If you put 15 level 5 cheerleaders out competing against teams with 20, you have almost no chance of competing; but if you bring up 5 cheerleaders from a level 2, 3 or 4 team to fill those 5 remaining spots, it may not be the ideal, but you are definitely more competitive than if you just put 15 on the floor. Plus if you take an entire team down to a lower level, you are not pushing your cheerleaders to strive to obtain and keep their higher level skills.

i completely understand what you are saying and respect that that is your opinion however i disagree. i know that there are large gyms out there who while they may have a large number of kids, the skill levels can vary vastly. So while the small gyms use cross overs to fill spots on teams that is exactly what large gyms are doing as well. Nobody wants to go out with 5-10 less kids on the floor than their competitors.

Date: Tue Jul 1 11:15 AM, 2008

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CheerTyme Owner wrote:

I wouldn't go so far to say CA was a mess.....

they werent a mess but they werent clean and there was way to much going on all at once to even enjoy it

actually the judges comments and our scoresheets say differently. top gun i agree was veryyyyy clean in all aspects..but the judges must've also liked something about cali coed's routine because clean did come up more than once..sloppy teams don't make top 3 and that's just the way it is.

Date: Tue Jul 1 11:23 AM, 2008

Bottom line is until some rule comes out that says a certain percent of your team cannot be on another team at a higher level nothing will change. My opinion is if at least 75% of your team is at the appropriate level (meaning they did not come from a higher level team) it should be fine. Let's take a level 2 team, for example. If the majority of the team is truly level 2 there is nothing wrong with adding higher level athletes to fill in the gaps. They are mentors for the others and you would still need the majority of your team to perform their skills (and cleanly) to win. What really bothers me is when you have a team that has been performing all year, and then right before Nationals athletes with higher level tumbling are added in and don't do anything in the routine except tumbling passes. Injuries are one thing, but when you have the same members you've had all year (no injuries or replacements needed) and then additional members are added just for padding, it doesn't seem right at all. But again, it's all legal, what can you do?

Date: Tue Jul 1 11:26 AM, 2008

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CheerTyme Owner wrote:

I wouldn't go so far to say CA was a mess.....

they werent a mess but they werent clean and there was way to much going on all at once to even enjoy it

actually the judges comments and our scoresheets say differently. top gun i agree was veryyyyy clean in all aspects..but the judges must've also liked something about cali coed's routine because clean did come up more than once..sloppy teams don't make top 3 and that's just the way it is.

I didn't go to worlds only watched CA's video. Thought they were awesome. You should be very proud of all you accomplished. You just have to ignore the negative nelly's out there. Most people are happy for you and applaud your second place finish. Who knows maybe next year you'll take first. Wouldn't that be something. Keeping my fingers crossed for you. biggrin biggrin biggrin