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Here we are making assumptions again. So let me clear a few things up.

Ok, CA does not have HUGE amounts of cross overs. Yes, we have them-but who doesnt? Lets not be naive. Every gym has them. I dont know if you are talking about large limited have huge amounts or the program but i will try and clarify both. Yes the program has them, and Not in HUGE amounts, and yes, coed has three boys cross over due to the gym having one, and to be competitive you need 4. The two level 5 teams do not cross to each other.


I dont understand why people make crossovers out to be such a big deal. I think this board has been over this issue over and over and over again. Gyms will continue to have crossovers until usasf bans them.

~a ca bullet

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My friend on CA is on 3 team's

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I have several friends on ca that cross compete, but does this mean they have a HUGE amount of crossovers? Not at all. There is nothing wrong with crossovers in my opinion, as long as they compete with that team all season I dont mind. I say more ower to all you crossovers you do twice the amount of work as everyone else.

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Here we are making assumptions again. So let me clear a few things up.

Ok, CA does not have HUGE amounts of cross overs. Yes, we have them-but who doesnt? Lets not be naive. Every gym has them. I dont know if you are talking about large limited have huge amounts or the program but i will try and clarify both. Yes the program has them, and Not in HUGE amounts, and yes, coed has three boys cross over due to the gym having one, and to be competitive you need 4. The two level 5 teams do not cross to each other.


I dont understand why people make crossovers out to be such a big deal. I think this board has been over this issue over and over and over again. Gyms will continue to have crossovers until usasf bans them.

~a ca bullet

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My friend on CA is on 3 team's

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my firend tylens on junior 5, small senior 5, and small senior coed 5

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Here we are making assumptions again. So let me clear a few things up.

Ok, CA does not have HUGE amounts of cross overs. Yes, we have them-but who doesnt? Lets not be naive. Every gym has them. I dont know if you are talking about large limited have huge amounts or the program but i will try and clarify both. Yes the program has them, and Not in HUGE amounts, and yes, coed has three boys cross over due to the gym having one, and to be competitive you need 4. The two level 5 teams do not cross to each other.


I dont understand why people make crossovers out to be such a big deal. I think this board has been over this issue over and over and over again. Gyms will continue to have crossovers until usasf bans them.

~a ca bullet

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My friend on CA is on 3 team's

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my firend tylens on junior 5, small senior 5, and small senior coed 5

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My friend John is on umlimited coed 5.small coed 5,and int. coed 5

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Here we are making assumptions again. So let me clear a few things up.

Ok, CA does not have HUGE amounts of cross overs. Yes, we have them-but who doesnt? Lets not be naive. Every gym has them. I dont know if you are talking about large limited have huge amounts or the program but i will try and clarify both. Yes the program has them, and Not in HUGE amounts, and yes, coed has three boys cross over due to the gym having one, and to be competitive you need 4. The two level 5 teams do not cross to each other.


I dont understand why people make crossovers out to be such a big deal. I think this board has been over this issue over and over and over again. Gyms will continue to have crossovers until usasf bans them.

~a ca bullet

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My friend on CA is on 3 team's

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my firend tylens on junior 5, small senior 5, and small senior coed 5

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My friend John is on umlimited coed 5.small coed 5,and int. coed 5

 

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my friend shakira is on jr prep 1 sm junior 3 large jr 4 jr coed 5 large senior 2 small senior 3 small senior 5 sm coed 4 unlimited coed 5 int coed 5 and open coed 6!!!!

guys give it up who cares its not against the rules and until it is you cant do anything about it

 

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stupid!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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I am curious to know why this always becomes such a big deal. the only gym i know of that doesnt use cross overs is stingrays. Otherwise, i am at a loss. If you people are naive enough to believe cali is the only gym using crossovers you are very wrong. I will say though, At least their athletes are cross competing in the same level as opposed to dropping down. Bullets are going to have enough kids to go to worlds regardless and will do awesome. There is so much talent in the gyms right now.



Also, for all you haters that bash on gyms for cross overs, id love to know what gyms you are at. My guess, a gym that uses them as well.

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Even though some of their boys did drop down last year...

here's how i look at the crossover "issue." for the most part, its not against the rules. and when it is, then the gyms don't use them. but if its not against rules, then its not cheating and there's nothing wrong with it.

as for the "moral" issues behind it, these are kids who love their gyms and programs so much they want to make them look as good at every level as possible. or kids who love the sport so much they want to be on every team possible. or people "subbing" in for an injured kid because they want to help out. if you ask me, those are all innocent reasons to cross over. if motions had a second "lower level" senior team while i was still competing, you can bet i wouldn't have thought twice about crossing over!

yes, those reasons can be viewed as an attempt to "beat a certain other team." but the bottom line is, this is a team sport. its about the overall impression that a gym or team puts on the floor, not about how good a handful of kids on that team look. and isn't it EVERYONE'S goal to put the best possible product on the floor regardless of level or division?? i think the answer is yes! if it were YOU'RE gym, wouldn't you try to give EVERY team in you're gym every LEGAL advantage possible?

all star cheer is a competitive sport. sometimes you'll win, sometimes you'll lose. some gyms will be superior over others. thats the way competition works.

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AMAC, nice post.

To the posters naming all the teams your friends were on...pretty funny...keep it going and we'd have a song like a "100 bottles of beer on the wall"   

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bahaha could you imagine. We be counting to thousands

1) World Cup

2) Maryland Twisters

3) Total Cheer Academy

4) CheerForce

5) NY Cheer

6) Green Bay Elite

7) Indiana Ultimate

8) Midwest Cheer Elite

9) ICE (indiana)

10) Rock Solid

11)Brandon

12)Gymtyme

13)South Jersey Storm

14)Cheernation

15)Woodlands Elite

16)Texas Cheer

17) ACE

18) Florida Top Dog
19) KC Cheer
20) Saint Louis Elite
21) Cheer LegendZ PumaZ

22) Cheer Factory

23) California Allstars

24) Nor Cal Elite

25) Supreme Cheer

26) Pacific Coast Cheer

27) Fusion All Stars

28) AZ Power Extreme

29) Cheergyms.com

30) Flip Factory

31) All-Star Legacy

32) So Cal Elite

33)Las Vegas Elements

heres a list from a different board, it has more teams

1.rock solid
2.brandon
3.fl top dog
4.fl wildcats
5.top gun
6.flip factory
7.suncoast
8.texas lonestar
9.woodlands elite
10.ICE of indiana
11.gymtyme
12.cheergyms.com
13.midwest cheer elite
14.cheer legendz
15.world cup cosmic rays
16.premier TN
17.premier hammerhead sharks
18.hamilton starz
19.cheer extreme
20.thunder allstars
21.ace indian outlaws
22.TCA platinum burn
23.SJS
24.cheertyme
25.united retic pythons
26.maryland twisters reign
27.So Cal
28.cheerforce
29.california
30.Austin Cheer Factory
31.cheer tampa`
32. St. Louis Elite
33. NY cheer
34. Nor Cal Elite
35. Supreme Cheer
36. Pacific Coast Cheer
37. Fusion All Stars
38. AZ Power Extreme
39. Allstar Fusion
40. Star Athletics
41. Las Vegas Elements
42. All Star Legacy