parents drinking at comps

Date: Fri May 2 8:54 PM, 2008

RE: parents drinking at comps

CheerTyme Owner · Senior Member

So how does everyone feel about the competitions providing alcohol to coaches?? I know a few companies who will have a open bar for coaches only. They usually open the bar an hour before awards or after the awards ceremonies. I am assuming that this will no longer be allowed with the new USASF rules. If a coaches job for the day is pretty much over except awards and the coach is not chaperoning kids, is it ok for the coach to have a few drinks?? I am on the fence, how do other owners, parents and kids feel about this??

Date: Mon May 5 6:05 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

If parents are getting drunk and acting stupid then maybe the gym owner should say that's not acceptable!! Especially if it's the same ones over and over again!

I would think the coaches would prefer the parents not to be making a drunken a@@ out of themselves should they be wearing the team name.

Date: Mon May 5 6:14 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If parents are getting drunk and acting stupid then maybe the gym owner should say that's not acceptable!! Especially if it's the same ones over and over again!

I would think the coaches would prefer the parents not to be making a drunken a@@ out of themselves should they be wearing the team name.

this is definitely not the best move. But the coaches shouldn't have to worry about stuff like this. An adult is an adult. And what ever they want to do is their business, and not the coach's.

This focus is on just a few individuals (what ever gym they are affiliated with) there are so many more parents doing the "right thing" at competitions. this is the majority of the parents and these are the parents I will hang out with everytime.

Date: Mon May 5 6:15 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

NOSEBAG wrote:

I agree with one of the other posters on here. The parents that get drunk "not the social drinker" do not realize that they are in fact drunk and making themselves as well as the gyms they are representing look bad. I really am not a drinker but I have on rare occasions had a drink.

But more importantly to me is where is their common sense ? God forbid one of their children has an appendicitus attack or an asthma attack at these away comps what are they going to do ? They are too drunk to properly assess the situation let alone drive their child to the E.R. and how about signing those pre surgical authorizations.
Do you think a surgen will operate on a minor when there is only an intoxicated parent there to sign the release ? My guess is if it's not life threatening your child will have to wait for hours for their parent to sobor up before a surgen would touch them.

How many cheerleaders were taken to the E.R. this weekend at worlds ? It could have been your's (drunk parents)

Ok so you might think I am being too dramatic but these are the things that I think about.

Couldn't these scenarios happen at anytime...not just at comps? So based on your theory parents should never drink because their kid might have an appendicitus in the middle of the night....crap, there goes my future night caps!

Yes I agree this could happen anytime anywhere being a parent. But I would rather have my wits about me when I am in a strange town, not knowing the hospitals or the doctor. In addition, usually it is only 1 parent that is traveling with the child. If we were home and an emergency was to occur both parents are there and in more cases than none they are both not completely eniglated from their drinks.

Date: Mon May 5 6:22 AM, 2008

CheerTyme Owner wrote:

So how does everyone feel about the competitions providing alcohol to coaches?? I know a few companies who will have a open bar for coaches only. They usually open the bar an hour before awards or after the awards ceremonies. I am assuming that this will no longer be allowed with the new USASF rules. If a coaches job for the day is pretty much over except awards and the coach is not chaperoning kids, is it ok for the coach to have a few drinks?? I am on the fence, how do other owners, parents and kids feel about this??

WTF, competitions providing open bar?? That is rediculous. The coaches job is not done till each and everychild is safely home.

Gosh darn it coaches curb the drinking for the weekend. Saw a situation in Worlds where a cheerleader was out of control and guess what, the coaches were drunk and they were trying to gain him undercontrol. Now that is completely laughable.

Date: Mon May 5 7:23 AM, 2008

I dont have a drinking problem....I drink, get drunk and pass out biggrin

Date: Mon May 5 8:10 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

I dont have a drinking problem....I drink, get drunk and pass out

Then you get up and do it all over again....

Date: Mon May 5 9:16 AM, 2008

CheerTyme Owner wrote:

So how does everyone feel about the competitions providing alcohol to coaches?? I know a few companies who will have a open bar for coaches only. They usually open the bar an hour before awards or after the awards ceremonies. I am assuming that this will no longer be allowed with the new USASF rules. If a coaches job for the day is pretty much over except awards and the coach is not chaperoning kids, is it ok for the coach to have a few drinks?? I am on the fence, how do other owners, parents and kids feel about this??

are you kidding cheertyme owner..... if you are still on th ejob, you should not drink period. drinking right before awards means yu are still at work. I am sorry, but we have seen you and a few others putting it down at cheer comps etc. especially in vegas. we are training athletes and while they are working their butts off for the weekend you should teach them how to be true athletes. you dont want a drunk or hung over cheerleader on the floor. then we shouldnt expect to have our cioaches drunk or hung over either. it is one weeken or one night. jeeesh.

i hate when people come on here pretendingto be concerned or one way and they really are the ones who do the things that are being exposed. you have all the other weekends other than the compettion weekend to drink and celebrate. relax or unwind. that is a sorry excuse and competition orginizations should be ashamed for hosting bars for coaches during the competiton weekend. now lets say after the awards on the final night. then celebrate go have a drink unwind relax get drunk whatever, but when you are working then hell no. that will get you fired from any other job and it shouldnt be allowed with cheer either. that also includes hang overs the next day. thats is till under the influence.
people say im an adult i should be able to drink after the girls compete etc or have a drink yadda yadda yadda, well then act like an adult and be responsible. you can have it both ways.
i say heck no to providing drinks to our coaches at competitions. Someone really should start considering if this violates some type of law or maybe start pushing for one to be enforced. if my coach orgym owner was under the influence at a cheer competition, i would most def look into seeking some typ of legal action.

Date: Mon May 5 6:04 PM, 2008

i think its okay to drink but when that is the only thing that you are doing at a competition well then shame on you -- so when your child starts drinking on road trips and at school or cheer events you really can't complain and blame it on any one but yourself and the example you set - and when that happens will you be a family at AA together or just let your child go by themselves - grow up and get a real life - kidz learn by example and parents are the first example -- having fun is one thing -- going to bed drunk and with a hangover is another

CheerTyme Owner · Senior Member

I don't think it was me or any of my staff you saw "putting it down" at any cheer competition....You must be mistaken. I am really on the fence about the issue. This is why I asked. No bashing of my self of my cheer gym needed. Thank you for your input. But the comments about you seeing us drinking are ABSOLUTELY false.

Date: Tue May 6 12:20 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

CheerTyme Owner wrote:

So how does everyone feel about the competitions providing alcohol to coaches?? I know a few companies who will have a open bar for coaches only. They usually open the bar an hour before awards or after the awards ceremonies. I am assuming that this will no longer be allowed with the new USASF rules. If a coaches job for the day is pretty much over except awards and the coach is not chaperoning kids, is it ok for the coach to have a few drinks?? I am on the fence, how do other owners, parents and kids feel about this??

are you kidding cheertyme owner..... if you are still on th ejob, you should not drink period. drinking right before awards means yu are still at work. I am sorry, but we have seen you and a few others putting it down at cheer comps etc. especially in vegas. we are training athletes and while they are working their butts off for the weekend you should teach them how to be true athletes. you dont want a drunk or hung over cheerleader on the floor. then we shouldnt expect to have our cioaches drunk or hung over either. it is one weeken or one night. jeeesh.

i hate when people come on here pretendingto be concerned or one way and they really are the ones who do the things that are being exposed. you have all the other weekends other than the compettion weekend to drink and celebrate. relax or unwind. that is a sorry excuse and competition orginizations should be ashamed for hosting bars for coaches during the competiton weekend. now lets say after the awards on the final night. then celebrate go have a drink unwind relax get drunk whatever, but when you are working then hell no. that will get you fired from any other job and it shouldnt be allowed with cheer either. that also includes hang overs the next day. thats is till under the influence.
people say im an adult i should be able to drink after the girls compete etc or have a drink yadda yadda yadda, well then act like an adult and be responsible. you can have it both ways.
i say heck no to providing drinks to our coaches at competitions. Someone really should start considering if this violates some type of law or maybe start pushing for one to be enforced. if my coach orgym owner was under the influence at a cheer competition, i would most def look into seeking some typ of legal action.

Part of the new rule with the USASF was brought about by coaches expressing concern about this very type of situation. I am thankful for the new rule.

Date: Tue May 6 7:17 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

i think its okay to drink but when that is the only thing that you are doing at a competition well then shame on you -- so when your child starts drinking on road trips and at school or cheer events you really can't complain and blame it on any one but yourself and the example you set - and when that happens will you be a family at AA together or just let your child go by themselves - grow up and get a real life - kidz learn by example and parents are the first example -- having fun is one thing -- going to bed drunk and with a hangover is another

What is with the assumption that if I choose to have a drink that I am all of a sudden an alcoholic? And just because I have a beer in front of my child she is also going to become an alcoholic? Really? So many posters on this thread have made blanket staements that having a drink=drunk/stupid. I have NEVER been anywhere close to being drunk at a competition....even in Vegas AFTER the kids are in bed (with Grandma and grandpa safely by their side for those of you who might think the kids are being left alone) I have only a couple of drinks....BUT it is my choice....and like I said previously shouldn't this conversation be about the decisions we make regarding our behavior whether we have a drink or not....I have seen many sober moms (maybe some of those who seem to view themselves as holier than thou because they don't drink) make complete a**es of themselves and embarass their children because they can't separate their childhood from that of their daughters who they are living vicariously through...so if you choose not to have a beer great for you....you must be a better person than I....but don't condemn me and say my kids will need to go to rehab because I had a drink in front of them!!!!!

Date: Tue May 6 7:48 AM, 2008

I don't see the problem or aguement as being about or should be about parents drinking in front of their kids. We have parents who drink in front if their kids, smoke, swear or even express hatred towards race or other things in front of thier kids.

What I think the concern should be... is it ok to serve alcohol at athletic function for children. Soley because we are at an event that is for under age children. This should be a concern for all sports not just cheerleading where the sport is geared for children.

My personal opionion. The legal age for drinking is 21, therefore there should be no alcohol served at these events, during the event time. now what happens after the event is over then, those our decisions for adults to make. We don't see the orginizations selling cigarettes at these events because its unhealthy and its not something they want to promote at their events. You dont see the hosting orginzations allowing smoking at thier venues (and this goes further than california not all states have a no smoking law). And parents?coaches have the right to smoke. So do they set up a smoking section for parents/coaches in the venue?? NO THEY DO NOT So they shouldn't serve alcohol either.

its time for these companines to do what is right and set the right image for their sport.

it is silly for people to point fingers and look down on others who drink. smoke swear or what ever others may see as wrong. I do none of those things... ok i can spew out some swear words when i am really angry. but that is my choice and a parent who does do them, is not wrong for thier choices. Each of us have a responsibilty to be who we are and raise our children how we see fit.

I think back to when I lived overseas for many years years and how the children were allowed to drink at dinner with their parents and you know what that country doesnt have a problem with teenage drinking. so its all about what you teach your children. as adults we have earned the right to drink when we beocme of age and smoke when we are legally allowed to. swear becasue we dont have to answer to a parent and have our own veiws on things in life.

so don't put others down about thier decisions. disagreements are not solved by saying hurtful things. they are solved by understanding others and respecting other veiws.

back to the original debate. my opionion is to leave alcohol out of venues at events that are for children.

Date: Wed May 7 7:29 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

i think its okay to drink but when that is the only thing that you are doing at a competition well then shame on you -- so when your child starts drinking on road trips and at school or cheer events you really can't complain and blame it on any one but yourself and the example you set - and when that happens will you be a family at AA together or just let your child go by themselves - grow up and get a real life - kidz learn by example and parents are the first example -- having fun is one thing -- going to bed drunk and with a hangover is another

AMEN!! Defending against this statement is simply alcoholic denial!!

Date: Wed May 7 7:35 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

i think its okay to drink but when that is the only thing that you are doing at a competition well then shame on you -- so when your child starts drinking on road trips and at school or cheer events you really can't complain and blame it on any one but yourself and the example you set - and when that happens will you be a family at AA together or just let your child go by themselves - grow up and get a real life - kidz learn by example and parents are the first example -- having fun is one thing -- going to bed drunk and with a hangover is another

AMEN!! Defending against this statement is simply alcoholic denial!!

I ASSURE you I am not an alcoholic.....nice to make accusations when you clearly have no idea who I or other posters on this thread are....I guess I was wrong when I made the assumption that as an adult in the U.S. I have the right to have a friggin' beer......you must be a better person than I because I choose to defend my rights....... bleh

Date: Wed May 7 8:21 AM, 2008

Yes if you are an adult over 21 no one should regulate when & where you have a drink. I think you should just keep in mind there is a time and place for everything and practice moderation.

Date: Wed May 7 8:30 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

i think its okay to drink but when that is the only thing that you are doing at a competition well then shame on you -- so when your child starts drinking on road trips and at school or cheer events you really can't complain and blame it on any one but yourself and the example you set - and when that happens will you be a family at AA together or just let your child go by themselves - grow up and get a real life - kidz learn by example and parents are the first example -- having fun is one thing -- going to bed drunk and with a hangover is another

AMEN!! Defending against this statement is simply alcoholic denial!!

I ASSURE you I am not an alcoholic.....nice to make accusations when you clearly have no idea who I or other posters on this thread are....I guess I was wrong when I made the assumption that as an adult in the U.S. I have the right to have a friggin' beer......you must be a better person than I because I choose to defend my rights.......

LOL Accusations? Sounds a bit defensive. More like an opinion. Just saying what I believe to be true. Having lived with alcoholics as well as dealing with several in my personal cheer community!

Tamara · cheergyms.com Master Poster

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

i think its okay to drink but when that is the only thing that you are doing at a competition well then shame on you -- so when your child starts drinking on road trips and at school or cheer events you really can't complain and blame it on any one but yourself and the example you set - and when that happens will you be a family at AA together or just let your child go by themselves - grow up and get a real life - kidz learn by example and parents are the first example -- having fun is one thing -- going to bed drunk and with a hangover is another

AMEN!! Defending against this statement is simply alcoholic denial!!

I ASSURE you I am not an alcoholic.....nice to make accusations when you clearly have no idea who I or other posters on this thread are....I guess I was wrong when I made the assumption that as an adult in the U.S. I have the right to have a friggin' beer......you must be a better person than I because I choose to defend my rights.......

Please re-read the original post. They stated that drinking is perfectly acceptable; however, when that is all one does at a competition then there is a problem. The second poster was stating that they agree with this message. Neither stated or even implied that having a beer or two was wrong or made one an alcholic.