CheerForce & So Cal Elite Outlaws Join Forces!!

Date: Thu Apr 10 9:28 AM, 2008

RE: CheerForce & So Cal Elite Outlaws Join Forces!!

Date: Thu Apr 10 10:01 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

carlos last year did not coach diamonds or alacratz. this year he has both .Ray Jasper was just at the gym and he tweaked the rountines,that was what everybody saw at long Beach. Carlos aso does all the music for the whole gym.

so what we saw at long beach was the result of what's to come.

Date: Thu Apr 10 10:04 AM, 2008

ok so they are combining, by hiring the same choreographer? I dont get it. will ray jasper be exclusive to both gyms? is he doing choreography for other gyms? Will those other gyms then be joined with socal and cheer force because hes doing their choreography?

Date: Thu Apr 10 10:22 AM, 2008

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ok so they are combining, by hiring the same choreographer? I dont get it. will ray jasper be exclusive to both gyms? is he doing choreography for other gyms? Will those other gyms then be joined with socal and cheer force because hes doing their choreography?

I'm sure you are asking this because it may have an impact as to whether or not you plan on joining one of these gyms. Perhaps you should contact that gym directly to get your questions answered.

Date: Thu Apr 10 10:29 AM, 2008

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I think Carlos has been coaching cheerforce all season. They sure are having a great year.

What is that supposed to mean? He was there last season too.
You think Cheerforce is having a great year ? No way. There small Senior has been beat every where that they have gone all year ( except American grand). The junior coed is a level 4 teams and the rest of the teams are weak. This gym gets a lot of press only because of one athlete. We know who she is so I wont mention her name. I have also heard that she is going elsewhere so they are going to be in a whorld of hurt.

Wow!! Someone is angry... Why the personal attack?? NO!! the Junior Coed team is not a level 4 team. I have never seen a level 4 put up 9 stunts, 3 are partner stunted and all with double downs out of scorpions. They also have full ups which I am not seeing in junior teams here in Calif. (No.. CA juniors or Bladez dont have them) They have standing full and many running fulls, doubles and specialty passes. I feel your way out of line... As for the Senior team, they just don't hand out paid bids to anyone.

haha cali jrs throw a form of tick tocs i think those are a little harder than full ups and props to them for not using full ups they are getting old. i dont think any jr team in the US has thrown tic tocs

Date: Thu Apr 10 10:38 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrotehaha cali jrs throw a form of tick tocs i think those are a little harder than full ups and props to them for not using full ups they are getting old. i dont think any jr team in the US has thrown tic tocs

What planet do you live on? LMAO My daughter was basing tick tocks several years ago on a rinky dink team! Good try though wink

Date: Thu Apr 10 10:43 AM, 2008

Wow enough is enough with all the pissing matches! Last weekend I saw two gyms support each other at a competition. Parents talking to other Parents, well wishes etc. Your all embarrasing these programs! Why don't we let it go and see what happens on the mats next year? Be happy for each other.

For those outsiders, I hope you don't perceive any of these programs by a bunch of annonymous posters. There are many good people at ALL these gyms and as always when a program gets bigger, they end up with the few people who can't keep their mouths shut and let their feelings come out to ruin it for the rest of us.

I wish all gyms the best of luck next season and at worlds this year. The way I see everything, California is growing in the cheer world and it allows us to be more competitive. This can only help us achieve higher outcomes against the rest of the country. So please "Why can't we all get along?" Moving forward lets look for a great new season with some some good competition.

Date: Thu Apr 10 10:43 AM, 2008

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Anonymous wrotehaha cali jrs throw a form of tick tocs i think those are a little harder than full ups and props to them for not using full ups they are getting old. i dont think any jr team in the US has thrown tic tocs

What planet do you live on? LMAO My daughter was basing tick tocks several years ago on a rinky dink team! Good try though

congrats to your daughter
im sorry if i wasnt clear enough i meant the only jr team competing with them this year

AChamp · Veteran Member

Anonymous wrote:

Wow enough is enough with all the pissing matches! Last weekend I saw two gyms support each other at a competition. Parents talking to other Parents, well wishes etc. Your all embarrasing these programs! Why don't we let it go and see what happens on the mats next year? Be happy for each other.

For those outsiders, I hope you don't perceive any of these programs by a bunch of annonymous posters. There are many good people at ALL these gyms and as always when a program gets bigger, they end up with the few people who can't keep their mouths shut and let their feelings come out to ruin it for the rest of us.

I wish all gyms the best of luck next season and at worlds this year. The way I see everything, California is growing in the cheer world and it allows us to be more competitive. This can only help us achieve higher outcomes against the rest of the country. So please "Why can't we all get along?" Moving forward lets look for a great new season with some some good competition.

Preach!!! lol very well put smile

Date: Thu Apr 10 11:19 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

ok so they are combining, by hiring the same choreographer? I dont get it. will ray jasper be exclusive to both gyms? is he doing choreography for other gyms? Will those other gyms then be joined with socal and cheer force because hes doing their choreography?

Ray is not exclusive to either gym, and he's not one of their coaches. He does choreography for a lot of programs.

Date: Thu Apr 10 11:27 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

ok so they are combining, by hiring the same choreographer? I dont get it. will ray jasper be exclusive to both gyms? is he doing choreography for other gyms? Will those other gyms then be joined with socal and cheer force because hes doing their choreography?

Ray is not exclusive to either gym, and he's not one of their coaches. He does choreography for a lot of programs.

so if CA hierd ray would they be considered part ofthe alliance?
ha idea

Reality Check · Newbie

Now you had to know that wouldn't stay up long right? Cmonnnnn

-- Edited by Danny at 12:40, 2008-04-10

Date: Thu Apr 10 11:46 AM, 2008

Poor moderators, they need to be on stand by all the time with these boards.

Don't worry as soon as Worlds is over, and things quite down over the summer, they can have a break.

Date: Thu Apr 10 12:11 PM, 2008

carlos has been coaching tumbing there 3 seasons now did anyone else notice the change in tumbling. this also is the 1st year Cheerforce has nt stacked a team with the same 20 girls.. each team holds itself up i am proud of what the have done this season and the next looks even better. this i not a merger of just names i know for a fact carlos has already been helping so cal.

Dont pretend to know something if you have a question call either gym and ask or even call carlos or ray maybe you can get their help too

Date: Thu Apr 10 12:14 PM, 2008

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I think Carlos has been coaching cheerforce all season. They sure are having a great year.

What is that supposed to mean? He was there last season too.
You think Cheerforce is having a great year ? No way. There small Senior has been beat every where that they have gone all year ( except American grand). The junior coed is a level 4 teams and the rest of the teams are weak. This gym gets a lot of press only because of one athlete. We know who she is so I wont mention her name. I have also heard that she is going elsewhere so they are going to be in a whorld of hurt.

Wow!! Someone is angry... Why the personal attack?? NO!! the Junior Coed team is not a level 4 team. I have never seen a level 4 put up 9 stunts, 3 are partner stunted and all with double downs out of scorpions. They also have full ups which I am not seeing in junior teams here in Calif. (No.. CA juniors or Bladez dont have them) They have standing full and many running fulls, doubles and specialty passes. I feel your way out of line... As for the Senior team, they just don't hand out paid bids to anyone.

haha cali jrs throw a form of tick tocs i think those are a little harder than full ups and props to them for not using full ups they are getting old. i dont think any jr team in the US has thrown tic tocs

those are level 3 tic tocks

Date: Thu Apr 10 12:25 PM, 2008

While " those tic tocs" may be level three so Are those full ups. Sorry to tell you but full ups are a level three skill as well. may

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Anonymous wrote:

I think Carlos has been coaching cheerforce all season. They sure are having a great year.

What is that supposed to mean? He was there last season too.
You think Cheerforce is having a great year ? No way. There small Senior has been beat every where that they have gone all year ( except American grand). The junior coed is a level 4 teams and the rest of the teams are weak. This gym gets a lot of press only because of one athlete. We know who she is so I wont mention her name. I have also heard that she is going elsewhere so they are going to be in a whorld of hurt.

Wow!! Someone is angry... Why the personal attack?? NO!! the Junior Coed team is not a level 4 team. I have never seen a level 4 put up 9 stunts, 3 are partner stunted and all with double downs out of scorpions. They also have full ups which I am not seeing in junior teams here in Calif. (No.. CA juniors or Bladez dont have them) They have standing full and many running fulls, doubles and specialty passes. I feel your way out of line... As for the Senior team, they just don't hand out paid bids to anyone.

haha cali jrs throw a form of tick tocs i think those are a little harder than full ups and props to them for not using full ups they are getting old. i dont think any jr team in the US has thrown tic tocs

those are level 3 tic tocks

Date: Thu Apr 10 12:32 PM, 2008

Aren't Nor Cal and So Cal sister gyms?

Date: Thu Apr 10 12:35 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

While " those tic tocs" may be level three so Are those full ups. Sorry to tell you but full ups are a level three skill as well. may
Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think Carlos has been coaching cheerforce all season. They sure are having a great year.

What is that supposed to mean? He was there last season too.
You think Cheerforce is having a great year ? No way. There small Senior has been beat every where that they have gone all year ( except American grand). The junior coed is a level 4 teams and the rest of the teams are weak. This gym gets a lot of press only because of one athlete. We know who she is so I wont mention her name. I have also heard that she is going elsewhere so they are going to be in a whorld of hurt.

Wow!! Someone is angry... Why the personal attack?? NO!! the Junior Coed team is not a level 4 team. I have never seen a level 4 put up 9 stunts, 3 are partner stunted and all with double downs out of scorpions. They also have full ups which I am not seeing in junior teams here in Calif. (No.. CA juniors or Bladez dont have them) They have standing full and many running fulls, doubles and specialty passes. I feel your way out of line... As for the Senior team, they just don't hand out paid bids to anyone.

haha cali jrs throw a form of tick tocs i think those are a little harder than full ups and props to them for not using full ups they are getting old. i dont think any jr team in the US has thrown tic tocs

those are level 3 tic tocks
i havent seen aany leval 3 teams do those
they score very high in leval 5
and they beat full ups

Date: Thu Apr 10 1:16 PM, 2008

What happened where did all the posters go? Time to pick the kids up from school. Here is a thought Jenny Craig merges with slim fast merges with biggest loser. Think you all might need to jump on that one.

Date: Thu Apr 10 1:20 PM, 2008

I love this idea. It is going to be fabulous. I don't think the owners of the gyms are telling everyone all of the info just yet. I'm sure they are both very professional organizations and will take things slow. As far as uniforms and a name, that is being worked on now. I wish nothing but great success to all of the programs that merged for the new season coming up. I'm sure that both big named gyms will have some very talented athletes and that should make the competitions very exciting. Just remember to always work hard!!!!!