CheerForce & So Cal Elite Outlaws Join Forces!!

Date: Wed Apr 9 9:49 PM, 2008

RE: CheerForce & So Cal Elite Outlaws Join Forces!!

Date: Wed Apr 9 9:51 PM, 2008

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I think the point is why was it necessary to make such a big deal about joining forces? What's with the big announcement? why not just invite So Cal over to CF to help out where needed, like any other gym looking for fresh ideas from outside sources? It's a little confusing and maybe a lot "not necessary." I do sense that one of these gyms feels a little backed into a corner by recent mergers. I'm not bashing. I'm just sayin...

I think the point is wanting to get the word out to potential customers about exciting additions to your staff and program. The same reason Ca put it out on this message board that they took over Bladez.

Don't get upset. I'm just callin it like I see it. So you don't see a difference between shaking hands and agreeing to help each, visit gyms, and cheer for each other VS writing up business proprosals, putting up cash and getting business loans? These two transactions are not quite the same No matter how you slice it.

So who in their right minds in TODAYS ECONOMY would take on a third gym with massive overhead. People are losing their homes and their jobs. Cheerleading is a luxury . Every gym out there is going to be losing some clientele due to a rapidly declining economy.
I guess the San Marcos gym will be footing the bills of the other 2 gym's for quite a while.

Date: Wed Apr 9 9:52 PM, 2008

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i don't think they would need it as a marketing tool. they're both great gyms. and sister gyms usually don't share coaches

yes they do that's why they're called sister gyms to help each other out. bottom line here is they are remaining exactly the same with the same owners same names no one bought anyone so what their "friends" whoopie doodah so basically it is more of an "alliance" than anything else. call it what is stop sugar coating it.

oh one more thing..don't you notice how they don't call it a "merger" since it's not they try to trick you into thinking it could be by saying " joining forces" people wake up this screams threatened desperation at the 11th hour! they just made an alliance that's it! OBVIOUSLY feeling very threatened by CA , what a compliment for CA!
SoCal surely didn't seem very threatened by them in Palm Springs!
Desperate??? Both companies attending Worlds on full paid bids in the two most difficult divsions. Don't think so!!

thats because there coed waasnt even there. socals bigest comptiton was calis SMALL JUNIOR or jr coed whatever you want to call it and they were pretty good compitition if you ask me.

Date: Wed Apr 9 9:55 PM, 2008

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SOCAL and CF...Ray and Carlos..all I can say is WOW. It truley will be amazing....eventually we will have the same name, and the same uniforms....

huh? now your saying your gonna have the same name and uniforms? what is going on seriously different story each day

Actually it's been less then a day . So I guess you will have to wait and .

CHEERFORCE,SOCAL ELITE AND NOR CAL biggrin

Date: Wed Apr 9 9:56 PM, 2008

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i don't think they would need it as a marketing tool. they're both great gyms. and sister gyms usually don't share coaches

yes they do that's why they're called sister gyms to help each other out. bottom line here is they are remaining exactly the same with the same owners same names no one bought anyone so what their "friends" whoopie doodah so basically it is more of an "alliance" than anything else. call it what is stop sugar coating it.

oh one more thing..don't you notice how they don't call it a "merger" since it's not they try to trick you into thinking it could be by saying " joining forces" people wake up this screams threatened desperation at the 11th hour! they just made an alliance that's it! OBVIOUSLY feeling very threatened by CA , what a compliment for CA!
SoCal surely didn't seem very threatened by them in Palm Springs!
Desperate??? Both companies attending Worlds on full paid bids in the two most difficult divsions. Don't think so!!

thats because there coed waasnt even there. socals bigest comptiton was calis SMALL JUNIOR or jr coed whatever you want to call it and they were pretty good compitition if you ask me.

Nobody said there wasn't good competition there! I do beleive there senior elite was there as well and are both very talented teams.

Date: Wed Apr 9 9:57 PM, 2008

You can't fight about who is better in different divisions. Each division is scored differently. Jr division is scored easier then SR divisions because of age. Large coed is scored harder then small coed because the amount of guys. You can't say CA large coed is better than So Cal small coed because So Cal small Coed doesn't have all those guys on their team. You can't say So Cal is better than CA jr coed because CA jr coed don't have the aged veterans of So Cal's SR team.

Date: Wed Apr 9 9:58 PM, 2008

Yes! These two programs will eventually have the same uniforms, and yes these two programs will come up with a name that will represent both programs well.
Good luck Cheerforce and SoCal I love you both and I can't wait to see what you guys bring to the table for next season.

Date: Wed Apr 9 10:02 PM, 2008

Hmmm I wonder what they will come up for a name.

So Cal cheer
outlaw cheer or cheer outlaws
cheer force outlaws
outlaw force
So Cal Cheer Force
Cal Cheer

that's all I can think of I'm nosey someone tell me what they plan on the name being confused

Date: Wed Apr 9 10:06 PM, 2008

wawa boohoo im on CA and im upset because two teams are joining just like we did a few weeks before
everyone on CA do me a favor and forget about what people are saying we dont need this. only we know how amazing next season will be for us. lets stop worrying about others and start paying attention to ourselevs. trust me nobody knows whats going to happen next season but one things forsure we are stronger than ever and nobody can stop these bullets from flying high haha
love you guys biggrin

Date: Wed Apr 9 10:10 PM, 2008

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The bigger the gym name the greater the negativity. Now you have two power houses joining forces so of cource it makes sence that this is going to draw a lot more negativity then normal. Cheer Force and So Cal have probally already mapped out what they want to do next year so they probally won't change names or teams or anything like that, but the season after who knows they may share the same name and uniform. They may also decide not to make teams in the same divisions. They said they will have about 15 teams combined so sounds to me like they are planning on putting teams in divisions that will make it so they don't compete against eachother. Congradulation Cheer Force and So Cal.

Now what I want to see is both Cheer Force's standing double and So Cal's standing double on the same team. It would be an awesome way to open a routine. Two clean standing doubles will surely catch the crowds attention

No that would be cheating, since they are not the same gym.

Date: Wed Apr 9 10:18 PM, 2008

don't hate the players, hate the game. Good luck to both programs!

Date: Wed Apr 9 10:20 PM, 2008

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The bigger the gym name the greater the negativity. Now you have two power houses joining forces so of cource it makes sence that this is going to draw a lot more negativity then normal. Cheer Force and So Cal have probally already mapped out what they want to do next year so they probally won't change names or teams or anything like that, but the season after who knows they may share the same name and uniform. They may also decide not to make teams in the same divisions. They said they will have about 15 teams combined so sounds to me like they are planning on putting teams in divisions that will make it so they don't compete against eachother. Congradulation Cheer Force and So Cal.

Now what I want to see is both Cheer Force's standing double and So Cal's standing double on the same team. It would be an awesome way to open a routine. Two clean standing doubles will surely catch the crowds attention

No that would be cheating, since they are not the same gym.

It wouldn't be cheating if they stayed on the same team all year. Just like ppl come from all over to join Cheer Athletics and Top Gun one of them may decide to drive out to one of the sister gyms and compete with them all season.

CheerTyme Owner · Senior Member

Good luck and congratulations to both programs!!!

Date: Wed Apr 9 11:56 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

i don't think they would need it as a marketing tool. they're both great gyms. and sister gyms usually don't share coaches

yes they do that's why they're called sister gyms to help each other out. bottom line here is they are remaining exactly the same with the same owners same names no one bought anyone so what their "friends" whoopie doodah so basically it is more of an "alliance" than anything else. call it what is stop sugar coating it.

oh one more thing..don't you notice how they don't call it a "merger" since it's not they try to trick you into thinking it could be by saying " joining forces" people wake up this screams threatened desperation at the 11th hour! they just made an alliance that's it! OBVIOUSLY feeling very threatened by CA , what a compliment for CA!
SoCal surely didn't seem very threatened by them in Palm Springs!
Desperate??? Both companies attending Worlds on full paid bids in the two most difficult divsions. Don't think so!!

thats because there coed waasnt even there. socals bigest comptiton was calis SMALL JUNIOR or jr coed whatever you want to call it and they were pretty good compitition if you ask me.

No one did ask you and cheerforce international coed was had top score 1st day.

Date: Thu Apr 10 12:13 AM, 2008

im not from so cal, but i love the coaches there.. Chester, Daniel, Lance, and a few others i have met.. NICEST most sincere guys and gals ive met.. two of them were even on Nor Cals open team just to help them out..

Kyle

Date: Thu Apr 10 12:21 AM, 2008

id rather hear a soap opera than the majority of the things posted on here lol. Some people (mainly parents) are so rude and harsh that its ridiculous. There is a lot of good drama or just topics to talk about, but EASE UP people.

Kyle

CheerTyme Owner · Senior Member

I agree 100%. I pick soap opera over trash talking any day!!!

Date: Thu Apr 10 1:03 AM, 2008

I went to tryouts at SoCal last season. I am a big girl and i couldnt do much tumbling. I was a beginner and SoCal turned me away. I went to CA and they put me on a team there and now i can do a backhandspring and a standing tuck. I Love CA. they have the best staff in California.
go bullets

Date: Thu Apr 10 1:11 AM, 2008

fear you say, My mom told me only the elite can hold my feet, CA allstars is the place to be.....

AChamp · Veteran Member

can we say OUT OF HAND... im sure their teams will be amazing, they already are... but you dont have to talk about CA... WE HAVE AMAZING COACHES AND AMAZING KIDS WITH AN AMAZING WORK ETHIC... but i guess desperation brings out the worst in people... hopefully this will all get deleted SOON!!!