Jamfest Results

Date: Wed Apr 2 7:42 PM, 2008

RE: Jamfest Results

Date: Wed Apr 2 8:21 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Were all those breaks really necessary?

I prefer stadium seating.

The announcer/audio system was hard to understand.

The competition itself was good but the atmosphere didn't have that "national feeling". Everyone was doing their own thing, walking around, not paying attention to the teams performing unless they were their own.

I did like how they posted the scores on the walls.

When we attended GSSA San Fran, on the way home I complained how it was unnecessary to have all those breaks. We could have been out of there by 6:00 w/o all the breaks. I was kindly reminded by my daughter that the fun and games were for the kids and NOT the parents. My daughter likes it b/c it keeps her mind and nerves calm before she performs. She told me that when I think it's not necessary to have all those breaks, to look at the kids faces and see their enjoyment. I did that when we were in L.A., and it worked. They're so excited to get a cup or a frizbee, etc.

Date: Wed Apr 2 9:45 PM, 2008

I didn't mind the games and the parent dance offs and parent team performing (they were awesome). I didn't like the long breaks between performances. You would have a team perform and walk off stage, then you would sit and wait a while for the next team to walk on stage. And then you had the break after a particular set of divisions. That empty time adds up.

Date: Thu Apr 3 6:35 AM, 2008

If a program is a level-3 working to a level-4 I can see placing them in a level-4 to see how they do. The team is developing their skills. But to stack a team with level-5 athletes and place them on a lower level-4 team not just 3 or 7 athletes put say 17 out of 20 athletes at a higher level I do not think anyone can say this is okay. It is wrong no matter how you look at it. It is called cheating. It takes away from the teams that are true level-4 athletes. How would your child like it knowing they have put the time in at the gym and they know every comp. they go two they are going against a level-5 team. You try to say it motivates them. Well in the beging it does, but towards the end it causes a lot of lets say frustration with the kids. Overall I question the gym owner who does this. I

Date: Thu Apr 3 6:44 AM, 2008

I may be mistaken but I thought I read they were not doing this next year and will be avoiding having crossovers. So I don't think we will see this next year.

If you have a level 3 and you want to try 4 for one or two comps before Nationals, I think most might agree that's fine. But to stay 4 when you should be 3, or to do it during Nationals is just being unfair to the members of your gym.

Date: Thu Apr 3 6:48 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

I wasn't talking about level senior 4 teams either. LOL Doesn't matter anymore moving on.

I am so relieved that you can tell me what my intent was.

The actual reason I didn't say the division is I didn't want the team that won to feel that they didn't deserve it since it isn't there fault.
Again I am moving on, but thanks for you insight into my intentions
Oh please...YOU come on here making vague accusations and don't expect that people will try to guess who you are talking about??? What did you expect them to do...you my friend are the drama starter! Glad to hear you are moving on!

Another thoughtful insight....haha you make me laugh

Date: Thu Apr 3 7:42 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

o no I know for a fact the pyramids Jr-4 team is made up of 95 percent of the girls are on the level 5 All American team. Lets hope this will not be the case next year.

To be on any AA team you had to be on a gym team also. No gym team was higher than a level 4 so their would not be an issue of two teams winning a bid. This has been pointed out many times people just want to give cheergyms a bad rap. They do not deserve the drama, leave it alone.

Date: Thu Apr 3 8:23 PM, 2008

I have to applaud everyone on the AA team. What a wonderful idea by cheergyms.com to think of such a great teams. Didn't you only start off with just 1 though? I believe I only saw 1 last year at comps.

Date: Thu Apr 3 8:39 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

o no I know for a fact the pyramids Jr-4 team is made up of 95 percent of the girls are on the level 5 All American team. Lets hope this will not be the case next year.

To be on any AA team you had to be on a gym team also. No gym team was higher than a level 4 so their would not be an issue of two teams winning a bid. This has been pointed out many times people just want to give cheergyms a bad rap. They do not deserve the drama, leave it alone.

But do they deserve a program award as "cheergyms" or when it comes to grand champion awards should the individual gyms stand alone?

Date: Fri Apr 4 6:28 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

o no I know for a fact the pyramids Jr-4 team is made up of 95 percent of the girls are on the level 5 All American team. Lets hope this will not be the case next year.

To be on any AA team you had to be on a gym team also. No gym team was higher than a level 4 so their would not be an issue of two teams winning a bid. This has been pointed out many times people just want to give cheergyms a bad rap. They do not deserve the drama, leave it alone.

But do they deserve a program award as "cheergyms" or when it comes to grand champion awards should the individual gyms stand alone?

Last year there was one AA team and this year two. They want to give as many kids the opportunity to cheer at level five that they can. They hope that the program grows even bigger and there are no crossovers at all in the gym this year. :)

Date: Mon Apr 7 4:55 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

o no I know for a fact the pyramids Jr-4 team is made up of 95 percent of the girls are on the level 5 All American team. Lets hope this will not be the case next year.

To be on any AA team you had to be on a gym team also. No gym team was higher than a level 4 so their would not be an issue of two teams winning a bid. This has been pointed out many times people just want to give cheergyms a bad rap. They do not deserve the drama, leave it alone.

I think that is exactly the point. If 95% of the girls on Pyramids level four had the skills for level 5, why weren't they Small 5 instead of 4?? confused

Date: Tue Apr 8 10:32 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

o no I know for a fact the pyramids Jr-4 team is made up of 95 percent of the girls are on the level 5 All American team. Lets hope this will not be the case next year.

To be on any AA team you had to be on a gym team also. No gym team was higher than a level 4 so their would not be an issue of two teams winning a bid. This has been pointed out many times people just want to give cheergyms a bad rap. They do not deserve the drama, leave it alone.
I think that is exactly the point. If 95% of the girls on Pyramids level four had the skills for level 5, why weren't they Small 5 instead of 4??

Is it because the gym operators feel they have a better chance of beating other 4 teams with level 5 girls than winning in small 5?

Date: Tue Apr 8 11:12 AM, 2008

Yup I think you are right. It's all about the win!! weirdface

Bummer for all the other true Level-4 teams. O-well when people do stuff like this it always comes back full circle.

Date: Tue Apr 8 11:28 AM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Yup I think you are right. It's all about the win!! Bummer for all the other true Level-4 teams. O-well when people do stuff like this it always comes back full circle.

What gym are you from? Does your gym have a true level 4 team? Do you think your gyms teams are all true levels. Do you have kids that cross compete? Just curious.

Date: Tue Apr 8 2:17 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yup I think you are right. It's all about the win!! Bummer for all the other true Level-4 teams. O-well when people do stuff like this it always comes back full circle.

What gym are you from? Does your gym have a true level 4 team? Do you think your gyms teams are all true levels. Do you have kids that cross compete? Just curious.

Power was a true level 4 team this year and beat this level 4/5 team three times out of four so I don't think it hurt them too much biggrin

Date: Tue Apr 8 2:29 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:
Power was a true level 4 team this year and beat this level 4/5 team three times out of four so I don't think it hurt them too much

Yeah, that's true. Power has 2 teams going to Worlds (56 kids) and none of them EVER competed on the Level 4 team. Very impressive that the Level 4 team was still so good. Oh and the Power Lev 4 team was all from the same gym in Modesto right? Wow!

Date: Tue Apr 8 2:48 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Power was a true level 4 team this year and beat this level 4/5 team three times out of four so I don't think it hurt them too much

Yeah, that's true. Power has 2 teams going to Worlds (56 kids) and none of them EVER competed on the Level 4 team. Very impressive that the Level 4 team was still so good. Oh and the Power Lev 4 team was all from the same gym in Modesto right? Wow!

Wrong they had 2 level 5 teams with 10-15 cross competitors. from Small 5 to large 5. Now they have pulled up kids from the Large 4 team which is not from Modesto it is also a combined team from both gyms to compete on the 5 teams. so they did have level 5 girls on 4 or whatever, I don't know if they are true level 5 girls but I do know they were on 4 now they are on 5

Date: Tue Apr 8 3:20 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Power was a true level 4 team this year and beat this level 4/5 team three times out of four so I don't think it hurt them too much

Yeah, that's true. Power has 2 teams going to Worlds (56 kids) and none of them EVER competed on the Level 4 team. Very impressive that the Level 4 team was still so good. Oh and the Power Lev 4 team was all from the same gym in Modesto right? Wow!

Wrong they had 2 level 5 teams with 10-15 cross competitors. from Small 5 to large 5. Now they have pulled up kids from the Large 4 team which is not from Modesto it is also a combined team from both gyms to compete on the 5 teams. so they did have level 5 girls on 4 or whatever, I don't know if they are true level 5 girls but I do know they were on 4 now they are on 5

Oh ok that makes sense. Does anyone know of all the girls that cross competed from AA to Pyramids Sr 4/5, how many are true level 5's?

Date: Tue Apr 8 3:41 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Power was a true level 4 team this year and beat this level 4/5 team three times out of four so I don't think it hurt them too much

Yeah, that's true. Power has 2 teams going to Worlds (56 kids) and none of them EVER competed on the Level 4 team. Very impressive that the Level 4 team was still so good. Oh and the Power Lev 4 team was all from the same gym in Modesto right? Wow!

Wrong they had 2 level 5 teams with 10-15 cross competitors. from Small 5 to large 5. Now they have pulled up kids from the Large 4 team which is not from Modesto it is also a combined team from both gyms to compete on the 5 teams. so they did have level 5 girls on 4 or whatever, I don't know if they are true level 5 girls but I do know they were on 4 now they are on 5

None of the girls who got moved up from four to five for worlds competed on either level five team during the season. These are girls who were needed for certain stunting positions or who gained higher tumbling skills during the season, but there were no crossovers on the level four team.

Date: Wed Apr 9 6:40 AM, 2008

We are not talking about Pyramids Sr. team. Were are talking about Pyramids Jr-4 team. Power did not have a Jr-4 team. 95 percent of them on the Jr-4 team are on the AA team Level-5. The gym we are from we have no cross overs not one of are girls is a Level-5. They all are either working on Level-4 tumbling or perfecting the Level-4 tumbling they have. So yes I would consider are team a true level-4 team. This past season I saw several true JR-4 teams. Pyramids was not one of them.