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Cheer Mom

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RE: Another topic


No her team was not competing and never had been taught a routine. They would be off to the side w/ 1 coach and the other coaches were with the advanced team. Now that they have crossovers both teams compete advanced but for my daughter it was too little too late. BTW they actually asked if my daughter was interested in coming back!

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coach

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That is too bad your daughter had a bad experience....you really should check out any of the other programs in the area....i know ALL their teams are treated the same......GOOD LUCK

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Danny

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Let’s keep in mind that there is a right place for every family and every student. I think it's unfair to blast a program for their system of building their team program.

While to many it may seem unfair to not let less than advanced teams compete it is the gyms choice and their right to run their program how they see best. For every person that thinks it's wrong there are likely the same amount or more that prefers the system.

cheergyms.com has had many families leave because they were unhappy with our system. I'm proud to say that it is a very small percentage but it is impossible to please everyone.

Find the program that is best for your family and do your best to respect the tough decisions that are made by gym owners and program directors every day.


Danny Kahn
Owner, cheergyms.com


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cheer mom

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I wasn't " blasting another program" just relating our personal experience. My daughter is now cheering for a diff program and extremely happy. My family has learned that there is a team for each person and not every team is for everyone. It doesn't make one program better then another just diff.


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Danny

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{{{{deep breath}}}}

ok

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cheer mom

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You're too funny. I guess this is a sensitive subject for everyone and I just wanted you to know that I wasn't placing blame on anyone. BTW my daughter has friends on motions and we know that it must be a good program among others in the area. Nelson has some time ago given my daughter private lessons and he was a very good coach and nice to boot.
I enjoy reading his Nelson's thoughts.
Hope that this is the end of these posts lets be more positive

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out of area cheer mom

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My daughter left cheergyms some time ago because of a move. I have to say, cheergyms definatly made it hard for us to be happy at another gym because we had such high standards in our heads and hearts of the way things should be done. We over-looked things hoping that it was because we were just "used to" certain things being done certain ways. But that didn't work out because we realized that it wasn't that we were just "used to" the way things were run at cheergyms, it was that they (cheergyms) were fair in their judgement and firm on their coaching beliefs. If we didn't understand a decision, we were always welcome to come and discuss what was bothering us and were informed of why things were the way they were. We had a very hard time finding that in other organizations. At the new gyms we often had that "feeling" you get when something was wrong and had to check into different organizations before making a choice. But I must say, cheergyms gave us a teriffic basis to go by because we wouldn't have known what it was like to be in an organization that took the "win at all costs" attitued that alot of gyms get and made it fun, educational and as fair as possible for all. Like Danny said, "you can't please everyone all of the time", but if you try to be as fair as you can and stand firm in your beliefs, people will feel this and follow. We miss cheergyms with all our hearts but are happy because we found a gym quite similar. It was funny because, the moment we realized we had found a gym we could be happy at, it was because we read thru the rules and they were as clear as day. Yes the new gym is nice and the coaches are great too, but when there are rules and the gym stands by them, everyone is happier. You know where you stand and that this is a place where you know people will be treated the same. Parents making the decision as to pull their child beacuse they aren't happy with their placement just tells me that they didn't take the time to do the research and talk with the coaches. No ones perfect, by any means, but you can work together as a team as we expect the kids to do. Jut like at home, the parents must stand their ground together. The coaches become a parent to your child of some sort and you must work together. This means not talking bad about the other when not together and working together through the hard times. Never does a cheer season run as smooth as butter but the organizations with rules and guidance by a strong coach and staff are the ones who come out on top.

A few parting words... (no I don't know who said them, sorry)

"SPIRIT, INTEGRITY AND VIGILANCE: Ability alone does not guarantee success."
"A LEADER TAKES PEOPLE WHERE THEY WANT TO GO: A GREAT LEADER TAKES THEM WHERE THEY OUGHT TO BE"
"VISION IS THE ART OF SEEING THE INVISIBLE"
"THE SECRET OF SUCCESS IS THE TO START FROM SCRATCH AND KEEP ON SCRATCHING"
And to the parents who would like to see their child on a more advanced team..."ONE MUST STEP BACK IN ORDER TO TAKE A BETTER LEAP" and "IF YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE CIRCUMSTANCES, CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE."

Thanks for being great leaders cheergyms... you have given us the seeds to success.





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Nelson

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From Cheer Mom
"Nelson has some time ago given my daughter private lessons and he was a very good coach and nice to boot.
I enjoy reading his Nelson's thoughts."

Nice? I am not at all nice...please don't start ugly rumors. Thank you for reading my thoughts though, I enjoy sharing them.

Nelson

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cheer mom

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Nice yes you are nice , tough, consistant and hard all also words that come to mind , but NICE is formost. Sorry Nelson , you can't hide from it.
Happy Holidays


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cheer mom

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Nelson sounds a lot like Jeff. Tough, demanding, nice and fix your roundoff.

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cheer mom

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Also we forgot , that was good now do it again!

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cheer girl from the team you are talking about

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dont be jealous because we are better and have higher levels. maybe your daughters should work harder so they can compete with the elite!

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Out of area cheer person

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That wasn't a "nice" thing to say. State your opinion but be "nice". We are all here together and even though we aren't with cheergyms, please be nice. They are very very nice people.

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cheer mom

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Don't assume you know what you are talking about. However if my daughter had been on your team , you are an example of why she wouldn't be anymore. As I sais before there is a a team for everyone . Good for you that you are happy where you are.

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a reader

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Originally posted by: Out of area cheer person

"That wasn't a "nice" thing to say. State your opinion but be "nice". We are all here together and even though we aren't with cheergyms, please be nice. They are very very nice people."


Oops! I don't think the person you were replying to is from Cheergyms at all and it just continues a potential conflict.

Sometimes the best response is no response at all....


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cheer mom

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True, I guess with some people you can't win. So as far as I am concerned I will no longer be posting on this subject

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out of area person

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Read it again.... I KNEW I was responding to a NON cheergyms person and tell them to be nice because cheergyms is a good program. Opps... I think you read it wrong....



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Valley Cheer mom

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A BIG THANKS to all the posts and Cheergyms.com for allowing this kind of discussion on their board. I am one cheer mom who has learned a lot from the comments and really appreciates the honest opinions. I just wanted you (cheergyms.com staff and families) to know how you help parents and cheerleaders in more isolated areas by being a great program example and allowing it to be seen through your web presence. Then, seeing your teams perform just makes me appreciate all the more all the hard work that goes into putting those cheergyms teams out there!! Keep it up!!

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A Friend

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This cheerleader must have been good to have this kind of in pack on you. What is wrong with trying to take time out and trying to better herself? We never believe quitting is the answer but if this is what she has to do to advance herself and to better yourself what is wrong with that? This is what you do when people leave organization you write about them on some one else is web site. What is the deal with that are you trying to black ball this person from other organization what are you scared of? We know who you are so stop acting so UN-professional about this!!! What kinds of a Cheer Director or leader are you is this the way you talk about every cheerleader that leaves your organization? No, wonder why they leave. You need to stop and think on why your cheerleaders quit maybe it because your organization is lacking something you don’t see, so why don’t you stop bad mouthing people that leave, and take a closer look on what your organization needs, and fix it and then maybe you will stop loosing your cheerleaders instead. A Good professional organization would have accepted there reason why they are leaving and move on, and not act in an UN-professional manner.

Step back and smell the coffee.


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A Closer Friend

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This post was from Danny (owner of cheergyms.com). I think you might want to read it before blasting his program.

"Let’s keep in mind that there is a right place for every family and every student. I think it's unfair to blast a program for their system of building their team program.

While to many it may seem unfair to not let less than advanced teams compete it is the gyms choice and their right to run their program how they see best. For every person that thinks it's wrong there are likely the same amount or more that prefers the system.

cheergyms.com has had many families leave because they were unhappy with our system. I'm proud to say that it is a very small percentage but it is impossible to please everyone.

Find the program that is best for your family and do your best to respect the tough decisions that are made by gym owners and program directors every day.


Danny Kahn
Owner, cheergyms.com"


ps Danny drinks quite a bit of coffee. I am sure he smells it quite well. There is no resentment or hatred or tension with programs outside of cheergyms.com, nor with girls/guys who choose to leave cheergyms.com for other programs.

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