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Aaaah, but there's the reason the USASF sent out the protracted email...they read the backlash on boards and thought, Uh oh, people may quit the USASF over this. Because, truthfully, they would. If the USASF starts telling people how to run their businesses, when in reality, THEY'RE HAVING A TERRIBLE TIME RUNNING THEIR 'OWN' BUSINESS, people WILL quit. And do I think that they'll go to NLCC? No, but...anyone else noticed that there are other options out there? Or that a certain company is poising themselves to break off, it seems?



So you are saying that USASF was going to impose this new uniform rule, but backed off because they read this message board? That is simply absurd. It sounds to me like people had made some crazy assumptions based on a survey they sent out and now they are just clarifying what they were doing in the first place.

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You betcha that's what I think. Go back and read the heavy wording in the survey. It said that we are not projecting an "All American" image due to crop tops and short skirts. That was the original wording. Then all of the sudden it's worries about sexual predators. If that was the case, why did the initial survey with its Victorian undertones not state that?

It's not absurd at all...just think about it.

 

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 Yes, it is absurd. They realize most of the people that post on here know very little about what are REAl concerns in the industry, but like to come in here anonymous and play it off. They listen to what gym owners and coaches think. That is all.

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Aaaah, but there's the reason the USASF sent out the protracted email...they read the backlash on boards and thought, Uh oh, people may quit the USASF over this. Because, truthfully, they would. If the USASF starts telling people how to run their businesses, when in reality, THEY'RE HAVING A TERRIBLE TIME RUNNING THEIR 'OWN' BUSINESS, people WILL quit. And do I think that they'll go to NLCC? No, but...anyone else noticed that there are other options out there? Or that a certain company is poising themselves to break off, it seems?



So you are saying that USASF was going to impose this new uniform rule, but backed off because they read this message board? That is simply absurd. It sounds to me like people had made some crazy assumptions based on a survey they sent out and now they are just clarifying what they were doing in the first place.

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You betcha that's what I think. Go back and read the heavy wording in the survey. It said that we are not projecting an "All American" image due to crop tops and short skirts. That was the original wording. Then all of the sudden it's worries about sexual predators. If that was the case, why did the initial survey with its Victorian undertones not state that?

It's not absurd at all...just think about it.

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Yes, it is absurd. They realize most of the people that post on here know very little about what are REAl concerns in the industry, but like to come in here anonymous and play it off. They listen to what gym owners and coaches think. That is all.

NEXT.

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You may think that what they're saying is absurd, but I actually agree with that poster.

And no I don't really think it was primarily this message board that got them worried. If anything it was the Pro-X/Cheer XS boards. This board is centered primarily on California, mostly Nor Cal in particular. The Pro-X board involves the entire country and even the world with some foreign posters. It has coaches, owners, parents and athletes from the top gyms in the country.

You say that they only listen to what gym owners and coaches think, but did you ever stop to realize that they post what they think on message boards?

To think that a major organization does not care what goes on on a message board is a tad bit uninformed. The internet is an easy way to stay in tune with the masses and often a lot of big organizations will have people scanning certain boards and other things on the net to find out what is going on. Its a good way to stay on top of things.

 

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 If they reacted to messsage boards, can't you see how many times rules would be changed, knee-jerk reactions made and indecision. They are in that position because people in the cheer community value their expertise and that they will do what is best for cheerleading. Let them worry about the important issues and not by what people argue back and forth on message boards about.

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If they reacted to messsage boards, can't you see how many times rules would be changed, knee-jerk reactions made and indecision. They are in that position because people in the cheer community value their expertise and that they will do what is best for cheerleading. Let them worry about the important issues and not by what people argue back and forth on message boards about.

Have you not noticed the vast amount of rule changes that have been brought up recently??

NO major company reacts to EVERYTHING the public says. Just the BIG things. The hot button issues that are argued time and time again. When people start getting heated, you better start paying close attention. No knee-jerk reactions needed. People get upset but unless its about something serious, they are persistent, and they are the majority and/or key players, no need to worry.

When it comes to cheer, the major things that were heavily discussed on message boards, did come up as ideas for rule changes. You think people just talk and don't mean it? Just because you might get upset about something and only huff and puff on a message board doesnt mean that somebody else will do the same. Someone might do both, complain and act. Which is why you dont completely ignore your clientelle. That is a poor business decision. It will only last for so long.

Also, just because I value your expertise, doesn't mean you won't tick me off and do something wrong. You act like the USASF is infallible. They are human, not the cheer gods.

I can name a number of CEOs and presidents that were placed in their positions because people valued their expertise, only to later screw millions of people over and send an industry leading company crumbling to the ground. For profit and non-profit.

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 Crop tops aren't a SERIOUS issue. Judging is.

It appears that the NAB (National Advisory Board), a democratically elected body of the USASF, suggested that the USASF look into regulating uniform styles. The USASF sent out a survey to see if there would be support for this.  I assume that the response was that coaches didn't want the USASF involved in that.  The USASF appears to have decided not to regulate uniforms.

I'm not sure that I understand what the conspiracy theories and anti-USASF rants are all about.  It appears that this whole thing was handled exactly like you would expect them to.  What more do you want?

If anonymous people posting on message boards want to think that demonstrated their great might, created a revolution, and "overthrown" the evil empire of the USASF on this issue, I guess they are welcome to think that in their own crazy heads. However, to me, it sure looks like the USASF went about it in a perfectly normal way with a sensible result.

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If they reacted to messsage boards, can't you see how many times rules would be changed, knee-jerk reactions made and indecision. They are in that position because people in the cheer community value their expertise and that they will do what is best for cheerleading. Let them worry about the important issues and not by what people argue back and forth on message boards about.

Have you not noticed the vast amount of rule changes that have been brought up recently??

NO major company reacts to EVERYTHING the public says. Just the BIG things. The hot button issues that are argued time and time again. When people start getting heated, you better start paying close attention. No knee-jerk reactions needed. People get upset but unless its about something serious, they are persistent, and they are the majority and/or key players, no need to worry.

When it comes to cheer, the major things that were heavily discussed on message boards, did come up as ideas for rule changes. You think people just talk and don't mean it? Just because you might get upset about something and only huff and puff on a message board doesnt mean that somebody else will do the same. Someone might do both, complain and act. Which is why you dont completely ignore your clientelle. That is a poor business decision. It will only last for so long.

Also, just because I value your expertise, doesn't mean you won't tick me off and do something wrong. You act like the USASF is infallible. They are human, not the cheer gods.

I can name a number of CEOs and presidents that were placed in their positions because people valued their expertise, only to later screw millions of people over and send an industry leading company crumbling to the ground. For profit and non-profit.

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 This goes to a different issue. It is not up to the USASF to listen to your concerns, it is the gym owners and coaches to listen to your concerns. You are the gym owners clientelle, not the USASF's. State your concerns to the proper channels. The gyms and their owners are the USASF's clientelle, not you.