Valley of the Sun World Bids Jan 12

Date: Tue Jan 22 9:29 AM, 2008

RE: Valley of the Sun World Bids Jan 12

Date: Tue Jan 22 12:23 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

I would have to say that all17of the judges had it 100% correct in who they gave the bids to and how they placed the teams at the competition this weekend. It was obvious to me that the judges awarded all the bids to the highest three scoring teams at the competition. In regards Myths yes they had some strong aspects of their routine, but as a routine they are definitely weaker than the other teams in their division and to be very honest I am not sure how you can say that your tumbling is stronger considering you only throw two doubles in your routine and they were not even taught by your coaches, they learned them at their previous gym. I would suggest that you get the everyone is out to get us attitude out of your system and start concentrating on building your own program and developing your own athletes.

Congratulations Good luck to AZ Power Extreme Small 5, Desert Storm Elite Large Senior 5 and Desert Storm Elite International 6 Co-ed at Worlds Im sure you will all represent the VOS well.

How does someone know how many judges there were? (unless)

Date: Tue Jan 22 1:32 PM, 2008

my first guess...look up atthe judges table and count the judges!

considering all judges on ALL panels judged the worlds division, the 17 judges were obvious to everyone at the competition.

Or how about if you were a worlds team and got your score sheets back...thats another idea too.

Besides....at no competition i've ever been to has the number of judges been a secret...I dont think thats the case here either.

Date: Tue Jan 22 3:41 PM, 2008

the whole competiton was redicilous (just my opinion) (not sure how to spell rigged).....

How does someone know how many judges there were? (unless)

If this is a coach writing: I would hope that you would have some understanding of scoring, which I am sure you do! But these remarks lack the knowledge of a seasoned cheer professional or maybe it is just sour grapes. Who knows!

if this is a parent or other spectator writing these comments: let the coaches do THEIR JOB, improve from competition to competition, learn and IMPROVE from the scoresheets and judges. Let the JUDGES do their job, they are much more experienced than you!

1) The correct spelling is RIDICULOUS. But you did manage to get rigged spelled corectly. Good Job.

2) STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. last poster was right, look at the judges stand, look at the number of scoresheets, or if that still isnt enough READ THE EVENT PROGRAM.

3) Top teams at nationals across the country, and at WORLDS are often separated by less than 1 point, tenths and even hundredths of a point. THERE IS NO HIDDEN AGENDA! DEAL WITH IT.

FYI: this is from their website for all the world to see!:
1st Desert Storm: 78.606, 2nd Az Heat: 73.622 3rd: Az Myths 72.843

that comp would have been represented well even if that Open level 6 division had ended up going the other way. >>>>80.25 to 79.712. Wow!

Congrats to all the bid winners AND runners-up, the judges, coaches and teams did a great job!

Date: Tue Jan 22 7:31 PM, 2008

Since I'm from California- just wondering how any of our teams did. I heard there was a few there, and that the senior level had problems??? Nothing to do with judging problems just sloppy as the previous post stated.

Date: Tue Jan 22 7:47 PM, 2008

Blah, Blah, Blah... Be done with this stupid post, already!!

Date: Sun Jan 27 11:15 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

I am not sure how you can say that your tumbling is stronger considering you only throw two doubles in your routine and they were not even taught by your coaches, they learned them at their previous gym. I would suggest that you get the everyone is out to get us attitude out of your system and start concentrating on building your own program and developing your own athletes.

What does it matter, who taught them their doubles??? I'm sure no one is discounting the tumbling passess on other more well known teams, just because some of the kids walked into the gym with already amazing tumbling skills.