American Grand Day 2

Date: Mon Dec 17 8:35 PM, 2007

RE: American Grand Day 2

Date: Mon Dec 17 8:52 PM, 2007

The new changes in that routine are nice. They look good and the dance is cute.

Date: Mon Dec 17 9:20 PM, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
so what your saying is its cheerforce parents talking about fierce negativley. Wonder why? They dont even compete against eachother? Parents need to be more respectful & grow up!
Anonymous wrote:
After there coaches came to San Francisco critiquing Cheer Force, opps they should of been taking notes.
Anonymous wrote:
Fierce level 5 was a mess.... What happen can someone answer...
Anonymous wrote:
Lets give credit Cheer Force was amazing..
Anonymous wrote:

Fierce's level five team look like it was a level three team, they had no level of diificulty in their routine.

to be honest, i didnt think any of their teams were good. they all looked a hot mess. i expected so much more.

OC Mom · GURU

Wow, I have to admit I'm embarassed for everyone here. Sad.

Fierce: if you did have issues, I truly believe that you will come back nice and strong like the gym and teams that you are. You deserve much more respect than you are getting here and for that, I apologize. I am embarassed for everyones behavior.

NOTHING but the very very best inside and out of the gym for all of your families from mine. Go back and prove everyone wrong. I know you can.

Happy Holidays from one of your fiercest fans!

CoachTal · Veteran Member

Wow, this board is interesting! As for Fierce this weekend. We just had to feel out that floor on Saturday! haha! Our level 4 and 5 had some difficulty on Saturday but pulled it together on Sunday! No sweat, it was our first competition and Im glad how things worked out, so our girls know now how it feels to compete. We did do Very good for our first competiton & having it be nationals. Thanks for everyone who sees our hard work and dedication! I was shocked to see so much negativity about our level 5 on here. But what can you do? We go out and do our best and we did on Sunday! Saturday was a different story! haha.
We cant wait to get back in the gym and get these routines even more jam packed. : )

Our ladybugs Performed well both days as well as Leapords. Lady Jags had a penalty first day and a drop second day. Ladies were strong both days minus a few touchdowns, Legacy was a disaster on saturday one stunt drop girls on their faces, alot of touchdowns. timing issuses. But their routine is so difficult they were still in 2nd. And then did flawless on sunday. And legend also has some 2 stunts drop on saturday, some touchdown issues. but then only a few touchdowns on sunday and has amazing energy!

I only know the standings of our divisions so I will post them anyway!

Mini Level 1
1.Fierce Ladybugs
2. Pride Champions

Junior Small Level 2
1. Fierce leapords
2. Woodlands elite
3.

Senior Small Level 2
1. ca?
2. ca?
3. Fierce lady jags

Senior Small level 3
1. Texas Jems
2. Fierce Ladies
3. Woodlands Elite
4.
5.

Senior Small level 4
1. American
2. Fierce legacy
3. Rocky Mountain Elite
4.Champion? Cheers?
5.Champion?Cheers?
6.
7.
8. ( apex, colorado show stars, cheeforce, peak? )
9.

Large 5
1. Power
2. Woodlands Elite
3. Cheer Odyssey
4. Fierce
5. American.

Date: Mon Dec 17 9:54 PM, 2007

how was the small senior 4 division? i heard it was supposed to be tough. I heard american was the only ones to hit, fierce was sloppy, cheerforce had some problems and got deducted big for smething being illgal, cheerz was good. What did you guys think?

CoachTal · Veteran Member

Thanks Lisa & OC mom ! We love you guys, your coaches, your parents, your girls and your programs! We did good this weekend, two first places, two seconds, one third, and one fourth! Not bad for our first competition! : )
We really dont know why people dislike us, but what doesnt kill you only makes you stronger! : )

Be Fierce So Fierce.

Date: Mon Dec 17 10:11 PM, 2007

they got first =] they have an amazing routine and awesome music. They deserved it by far.

Date: Mon Dec 17 10:14 PM, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

they got first =] they have an amazing routine and awesome music. They deserved it by far.

Who?

Date: Mon Dec 17 10:24 PM, 2007

CoachTal wrote:

Thanks Lisa & OC mom ! We love you guys, your coaches, your parents, your girls and your programs! We did good this weekend, two first places, two seconds, one third, and one fourth! Not bad for our first competition! : )
We really dont know why people dislike us, but what doesnt kill you only makes you stronger! : )

Be Fierce So Fierce.

Pretty good for your first competition. This is not a negative comment at all, just curious... why is your first competition in December when everyone else pretty much started in October? Just curious!

CoachTal · Veteran Member

I think everyones first competiton was around the first of decemeber maybe end of novemeber? I still know of teams who havent had their first competiton yet either. We had one scheduled for dec 1. and it was cancelled.

Date: Mon Dec 17 10:50 PM, 2007

yeah my first comp was a nationals last weekend. maybe so cal just gets started later ... i think the first real comp around here was in the middle of november

Date: Mon Dec 17 10:56 PM, 2007

bladez first competition wasnt until the second weekend in december. so cal starts later than everybody else, but why?

Date: Mon Dec 17 11:21 PM, 2007

it really makes me sad to read stuff like this on message boards. If gyms have beef with each other let them handle it, it isnt anybody elses business. As far as kids switching gyms, it isnt like it has never been done before. Sure, fierce may have lost a few girls to go to cheerforce, i know for a fact that girls on cheerforce left to go do bladez. Who cares where everybody cheers. If the girls are happy with the move then leave it alone. I also think it is rediculous that people even care if another gym is talking about your program, any publicity is good publicity. While i have not known cheerforce to be the nicest program i have come across, i must have only run into their few bad apples, per say because i dont know everyone in their program. Fierce on the other hand are a group of nothing but nice people. i think this shows by the way both gyms are represented on these boards, cheerforce people seem to be very defensive and like "haha, we showed you!" kind of people where fierce is happy with the performances they put out on the floor this weekend and know that they have something to go back into the gym in work on. I think this thread is really getting out of hand though and it shouldnt because it started as just a thread to basically be an overview of what happened yesterday in vegas.

With this being said,
i request that this topic be closed.
Anonymous wrote:

Yes it is interesting why would Cheerforce parents talk about Fierce, we all know like 15 of Fierce's kids went to Cheerforce this year but I think they would be happy they are the one with three Worlds BIDS , I could see if it was the other way around , that just sounds dumb makes no sense at all. They proved the move they made was worth it!!!!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
so what your saying is its cheerforce parents talking about fierce negativley. Wonder why? They dont even compete against eachother? Parents need to be more respectful & grow up!
Anonymous wrote:
After there coaches came to San Francisco critiquing Cheer Force, opps they should of been taking notes.
Anonymous wrote:
Fierce level 5 was a mess.... What happen can someone answer...
Anonymous wrote:
Lets give credit Cheer Force was amazing..
Anonymous wrote:

Fierce's level five team look like it was a level three team, they had no level of diificulty in their routine.

to be honest, i didnt think any of their teams were good. they all looked a hot mess. i expected so much more.

Date: Mon Dec 17 11:31 PM, 2007

Wow.....it makes you sad the way these threads go, but yet you move on to do the same thing and bash a gym.

But one thing was well said it is time to close this thread.

I have met nice people from both these programs and we must NEVER forget, annonymous posters are out there to make programs look bad!!!!

Anonymous wrote:

it really makes me sad to read stuff like this on message boards. If gyms have beef with each other let them handle it, it isnt anybody elses business. As far as kids switching gyms, it isnt like it has never been done before. Sure, fierce may have lost a few girls to go to cheerforce, i know for a fact that girls on cheerforce left to go do bladez. Who cares where everybody cheers. If the girls are happy with the move then leave it alone. I also think it is rediculous that people even care if another gym is talking about your program, any publicity is good publicity. While i have not known cheerforce to be the nicest program i have come across, i must have only run into their few bad apples, per say because i dont know everyone in their program. Fierce on the other hand are a group of nothing but nice people. i think this shows by the way both gyms are represented on these boards, cheerforce people seem to be very defensive and like "haha, we showed you!" kind of people where fierce is happy with the performances they put out on the floor this weekend and know that they have something to go back into the gym in work on. I think this thread is really getting out of hand though and it shouldnt because it started as just a thread to basically be an overview of what happened yesterday in vegas.

With this being said,
i request that this topic be closed.
Anonymous wrote:

Date: Mon Dec 17 11:31 PM, 2007

DEFENSIVE NO!!! BORED WITH THE DUMBNESS ......YES

I AGREE PLEASE CLOSE THIS TOPIC

Anonymous wrote:

it really makes me sad to read stuff like this on message boards. If gyms have beef with each other let them handle it, it isnt anybody elses business. As far as kids switching gyms, it isnt like it has never been done before. Sure, fierce may have lost a few girls to go to cheerforce, i know for a fact that girls on cheerforce left to go do bladez. Who cares where everybody cheers. If the girls are happy with the move then leave it alone. I also think it is rediculous that people even care if another gym is talking about your program, any publicity is good publicity. While i have not known cheerforce to be the nicest program i have come across, i must have only run into their few bad apples, per say because i dont know everyone in their program. Fierce on the other hand are a group of nothing but nice people. i think this shows by the way both gyms are represented on these boards, cheerforce people seem to be very defensive and like "haha, we showed you!" kind of people where fierce is happy with the performances they put out on the floor this weekend and know that they have something to go back into the gym in work on. I think this thread is really getting out of hand though and it shouldnt because it started as just a thread to basically be an overview of what happened yesterday in vegas.

With this being said,
i request that this topic be closed.
Anonymous wrote:

Yes it is interesting why would Cheerforce parents talk about Fierce, we all know like 15 of Fierce's kids went to Cheerforce this year but I think they would be happy they are the one with three Worlds BIDS , I could see if it was the other way around , that just sounds dumb makes no sense at all. They proved the move they made was worth it!!!!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
so what your saying is its cheerforce parents talking about fierce negativley. Wonder why? They dont even compete against eachother? Parents need to be more respectful & grow up!
Anonymous wrote:
After there coaches came to San Francisco critiquing Cheer Force, opps they should of been taking notes.
Anonymous wrote:
Fierce level 5 was a mess.... What happen can someone answer...
Anonymous wrote:
Lets give credit Cheer Force was amazing..
Anonymous wrote:

Fierce's level five team look like it was a level three team, they had no level of diificulty in their routine.

to be honest, i didnt think any of their teams were good. they all looked a hot mess. i expected so much more.

Date: Mon Dec 17 11:37 PM, 2007

It kills me when people think they know everything about everyone, when they dont. how do u even know who is who on these boards? its so easy is say your someone your not. or say your from somewhere your not. everyone is going to have a different opinion about everything. i can think someone is bad and you can think they were amazing. what is closing this topic going to do. make everyone talk about it in a different one? all the comments i have read are comments everyone can grow from. if someone thinks your sloppy, tighten up. if someone thinks you dont have the difficulty, add some more. its that easy. if your happy with who u are and were u cheer dont worry about what other people say. and to the this gym has nice people this gym had rude people thing. get over it. i personally know rude and nice people from both gyms. no gym is perfect. everyone has some bad apples.

Date: Mon Dec 17 11:47 PM, 2007

All of this bad talk is really sad.

Both gyms are strong in their perspective divisions. That is no surprise. Yes, Fierce had a hard time, and I'm sure Cheerforce has had their share of bad days as well. This is no reason to get upset at either gym. CF, congrats on your World's bids.

Fierce, we know you will get yours too.

The season has only started, teams make mistakes, it happens. Every gym has had their fair share. Thats no reason to imply someone isn't "good enough". As in every sport, and aspect in your life, your going to have bad days, or make mistakes. We're all only human. It's part of the growing process, and people learn from their mistakes. We all need to keep this message board positive.

Date: Mon Dec 17 11:49 PM, 2007

AMEN!

Date: Mon Dec 17 11:50 PM, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

All of this bad talk is really sad. Both gyms are strong in their perspective divisions. That is no surprise. Yes, Fierce had a hard time, and I'm sure Cheerforce has had their share of bad days as well. This is no reason to get upset at either gym. CF, congrats on your World's bids.
Fierce, we know you will get yours too. The season has only started, teams make mistakes, it happens. Every gym has had their fair share. Thats no reason to imply someone isn't "good enough". As in every sport, and aspect in your life, your going to have bad days, or make mistakes. We're all only human. It's part of the growing process, and people learn from their mistakes. We all need to keep this message board positive.

Well Put! =)