Athletic Championships?

Date: Wed Jan 2 6:28 PM, 2008

RE: Athletic Championships?

Date: Wed Jan 2 6:33 PM, 2008

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This is like the 3rd thread about the open division. People GET OVER IT!!! Seriously there is more to talk about than this 1 particular division. Obviously the NACCC and USASF made it for a reason. There are many gyms who can't field a 12 and older senior team, so they offer it. So what if you don't compete against someone for 1 competition. The whole point of competing is to get ready for Nationals. All these little random regionals and championships are to get ready for the big show at the end of the season. So many of you guys are so about today and not long term. Correct me if I'm wrong but every competition in Nor Cal has had some type of grand championship round or score, so work for that.

So much for the discussion not turning negative. I can't figure out why people who are not interested in a particular topic don't just ignore it. The original post was a question about teams that aren't in an open division competing in an open division to make things interesting, to have some competition (you know, competition? what we pay for?) There were good points brought up by both sides and everything seemed civil, until... Oh well, it was good while it lasted.

First of all its hard to ignore messages with lots of inaccuarte information. Next the ORIGINAL point of this thread wa about Athletic Championships. Sorry to bust your bubble.

Not sure where the "inaccurate" information was? I think the post meant the original post about this particular topic. Sometimes we start on one topic but it leads to another, nothing wrong with that. I'm hoping once the official schedule is posted we won't see teams with no competition because of these open divisions, which I think is the problem most of us have with them. But probably best to wait and see instead of speculating who is in which division.

Date: Thu Jan 3 9:27 AM, 2008

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i agreed. this has been discussed again and again. the division is offered and this allows teams to field a senior open team whether it be at levels 2, 3, 4. if the rules are adjusted next season then and only then will teams restructure their teams. small gyms love this category, it allows the cheerleaders to gain skills at the senior category and probably the next level as well. that's really cool when you look at the bigger picture.

Apparently big gyms love this category too, which sort of defeats the purpose?

I'm sure their are some large gyms that have teams in the open category. In Nor Cal? haven't seen it.

Date: Thu Jan 3 10:44 AM, 2008

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i agreed. this has been discussed again and again. the division is offered and this allows teams to field a senior open team whether it be at levels 2, 3, 4. if the rules are adjusted next season then and only then will teams restructure their teams. small gyms love this category, it allows the cheerleaders to gain skills at the senior category and probably the next level as well. that's really cool when you look at the bigger picture.

Apparently big gyms love this category too, which sort of defeats the purpose?

I'm sure their are some large gyms that have teams in the open category. In Nor Cal? haven't seen it.

Power has at least one team in an open category, most would consider Power a large gym. Some would consider Cheer Odyssey a large gym, they also have a team in an open division. Just a couple examples. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with using them while they exist, don't get me wrong. But if the point of having them around is to help small gyms, I don't see it. I don't think gyms will suffer if they were to go away. Competition companies love the opportunity to offer as many divisions as possible because it draws more business for them; I don't think they care if it means less competition in each division. Am I wrong?

Date: Thu Jan 3 11:12 AM, 2008

Back to the original topic as to who is going, are there any other gyms attending that aren't listed yet? I hope the turnout is better, this is usually a fun competition to attend. But so is Cheersport so I can understand why gyms are split going to both.

Date: Thu Jan 3 1:03 PM, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

i agreed. this has been discussed again and again. the division is offered and this allows teams to field a senior open team whether it be at levels 2, 3, 4. if the rules are adjusted next season then and only then will teams restructure their teams. small gyms love this category, it allows the cheerleaders to gain skills at the senior category and probably the next level as well. that's really cool when you look at the bigger picture.

Apparently big gyms love this category too, which sort of defeats the purpose?

I'm sure their are some large gyms that have teams in the open category. In Nor Cal? haven't seen it.

Power has at least one team in an open category, most would consider Power a large gym. Some would consider Cheer Odyssey a large gym, they also have a team in an open division. Just a couple examples. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with using them while they exist, don't get me wrong. But if the point of having them around is to help small gyms, I don't see it. I don't think gyms will suffer if they were to go away. Competition companies love the opportunity to offer as many divisions as possible because it draws more business for them; I don't think they care if it means less competition in each division. Am I wrong?

Power has 2 a Senior 2 open and a Senior 3 open

Date: Thu Jan 3 1:22 PM, 2008

I love watching Power thier teams are awesome, but I have a question. Power has two locations and each location would be considered a small gym correct. But when they combine thier teams from each location would they still be considered a small gym. They have some pretty big teams, and I was just curious. I don't know the official number.

Date: Thu Jan 3 10:14 PM, 2008

UMMMM power isnt attending this competition so can we please move on?

who else is going to this competition

cheerwatcher · GURU

Just thought I'd bring this topic back to the top. These are the teams we have all listed as attending. Feel free to add names if you are not listed!

ATHLETIC CHAMPIONSHIPS January 26-27, 2008

Tiny Level 1
UCF???????

Mini Level 1
California Spirit
Cheer Xplosion
Roseville Cheer Starz

Small Youth Level 1
Premiere

Small Youth level 2
California Spirit
Cheer Xplosion
UCF

Small Youth Level 3
Supreme Cheer
Nor Cal Elite

Small Junior Level 1
Premiere

Small Junior Level 2
Roseville Cheer Starz

Small Junior Level 3
Cheer Xplosion
UCF

Junior Coed Level 4
Supreme Cheer
Junior Coed Level 5
Nor Cal Elite

Small Senior Level 2
California Spirit
Cheer Xplosion

Large Senior Level 2
Premiere

Senior Level 2 Open
Supreme Cheer

Senior Level 3 Open
California Spirt

Senior Coed Level 3
Nor Cal Elite

Small Senior Level 4
Cheer Xplosion
Roseville Cheer Starz

Small Senior Open 4
UCF
Roseville Cheer Starz ?????????

Small Senior Level 5
Nor Cal Elite

Senior Coed Level 5
Supreme Cheer
Nor Cal Elite

Open Coed 6
Nor Cal Elite

-- Edited by cheerwatcher at 12:38, 2008-01-04

Date: Fri Jan 4 3:00 PM, 2008

any videos of the supreme level 5?

Date: Fri Jan 4 3:23 PM, 2008

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any videos of the supreme level 5?

they were removed, but they were ok.
Standing tumbling - 4 standing fulls, 2 3 to fulls, 2 3 to doubles.
Running Tumbling - like 4 fulls, 2 doubles, the rest were layouts and tucks
Jumps - Need Work
Stunts - Only 4, not that difficult, not showy
Pryamid - Good
Dance - Ok

Date: Sun Jan 6 7:23 PM, 2008

Any videos on ucf open 4?