UCA 11/10 American Masterpiece 11/16-18 Americas Best November 17

Date: Wed Nov 14 11:16 AM, 2007

RE: UCA 11/10 American Masterpiece 11/16-18 Americas Best November 17

Date: Wed Nov 14 11:28 AM, 2007

I think C0 is a level 4 team skill wise. NCE will need to hit the routine and keep it clean. Skill wise they are both weak for level 5 ,so it is like Senior Coed 4.25 not 5

Date: Wed Nov 14 11:49 AM, 2007

I don't really agree with that this season. I think this year CO is much stronger than they were last year, and that NCE is much weaker. CO's routine is also better choreographed and has stronger use of level 5 skills. Last year I would have given it to NCE as long as they hit...this year I don't think it's as much of a slam-dunk.

Date: Wed Nov 14 12:02 PM, 2007

Who are we kidding?! CO is just a stronger level 4 team then their level 4 team last year. By no means am I a fan of either this year, but NCE always knows when to be clean and safe with skills. They werent competing against anyone at JamFest, so they threw the skills they were working on. Why is anyone even second guessing who will take that division? CO had what, maybe 7 (recycled) fulls, and their best tumbler didnt even throw doubles, they threw a pass that ended in a tuck to punch out (not step out) and go through to a full. They have a few level 5 cheerleaders, yes, good ones at that, but you need more than that. NCE has the advantage of more level 5 skills and decent choreography. Best of luck to both, I cant wait to hear how it turns out. I dont expect any surprises!

OdysseyMom · Veteran Member

I am really excited for this competition. Our guys and girls are pushing themselves and gaining difficulty and skills. What is going to decide who wins or loses is going to be routine execution, showmanship and how clean the teams look. We are excited to be competing against NCE and however it goes I know it will be a great competition. Remember all teams build throughout the year and improve. We can't all be Cheer Athletics and World Cup but we can sure try. I love that our coaches push our girls to attain new skills. Good Luck to NCE and all the teams competing this weekend.

Date: Wed Nov 14 12:13 PM, 2007

I agree odyssey mom. Well said!

Date: Wed Nov 14 12:30 PM, 2007

I don't agree AT ALL. I've seen both routines this season and CO has got it all over NCE. I don't think either team is like "powerhouse level 5" caliber by any means, but if CO didn't win I'd be very surprised. Can't wait to see them both this weekend.

Anonymous wrote:

Who are we kidding?! CO is just a stronger level 4 team then their level 4 team last year. By no means am I a fan of either this year, but NCE always knows when to be clean and safe with skills. They werent competing against anyone at JamFest, so they threw the skills they were working on. Why is anyone even second guessing who will take that division? CO had what, maybe 7 (recycled) fulls, and their best tumbler didnt even throw doubles, they threw a pass that ended in a tuck to punch out (not step out) and go through to a full. They have a few level 5 cheerleaders, yes, good ones at that, but you need more than that. NCE has the advantage of more level 5 skills and decent choreography. Best of luck to both, I cant wait to hear how it turns out. I dont expect any surprises!

Date: Wed Nov 14 12:37 PM, 2007

Some competition companies reward clean and simple over sloppy but more difficulty. I'm not sure which one this competition favors. I know at one time American Championships used to give points for difficulty (more than other comps) but I think I read that changed last year. In my opinion, CO is the first mentioned (clean, simple), and NCE is more the 2nd, but that does NOT mean this is how the routines will go this weekend. I think it will be close between the two, and I'm leaning towards NCE taking it. I'm very glad they are going against each other because it will be really exciting to watch.

Does anyone know if we can videotape?

Date: Wed Nov 14 3:17 PM, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

i think co will beat nce. co looks really good this year!! what do you guys think?

Hard to say, I am a fan of CO and their routine is great.
But against other competition, bigger squads, they are lacking in tumbling.
I wish both teams the best. This should be a good competition.

Does anyone have a video of CO or NCE?

Date: Wed Nov 14 4:04 PM, 2007

Worlds Watcher wrote:

Did I miss something? I thought NCE coed team was unlimited coed but now I see they are listed as limited coed. I guess I just assumed they were unlimited based on previous years.

At Jamfest we went unlimited because we had a girl get her appendix out the tuesday before competition..
when we were re-working, we added one boy to make things easier..
didnt make a difference cuz we werent competing against anyone...

but now we will be going limited.

Date: Wed Nov 14 4:22 PM, 2007

TINY LEVEL
1:04:00 PM Majestic All Stars - Tiny Lvl 1 (10) Watsonville, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - MINI LEVEL 1
1:24:00 PM Cheer Odyssey Shooting Stars - Mini Lvl 1 (12)

ALL-STAR CHEER - MINI LEVEL 2
1:40:00 PM Power - Mini Lvl 2 (20) Northern, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - YOUTH SMALL LEVEL 1
2:00:00 PM Riptide All Stars - Yth Sm Lvl 1 (17) Hollister, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - YOUTH SMALL LEVEL 2 - TOSS UP FOR ME
2:08:00 PM Cheer Xplosion - Yth Sm Lvl 2 (15) Livermore, CA
2:12:00 PM Cheer Odyssey Voyagers - Yth Sm Lvl 2 (18) Stockton,
ALL-STAR CHEER - YOUTH SMALL LEVEL 3
2:28:00 PM Las Vegas Elements Windstorm - Yth Sm Lvl 3 (20) Las

ALL-STAR CHEER - JUNIOR SMALL LEVEL 2
2:44:00 PM Power - Jr Sm Lvl 2 (14) Northern, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - JUNIOR LEVEL 3
3:00:00 PM Cheer Xplosion - Jr Lvl 3 (19) Livermore, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - JUNIOR LEVEL 4
3:08:00 PM Cheer Odyssey Comets - Jr Lvl 4 (28) Stockton, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - JUNIOR COED LEVEL 5
3:20:00 PM Nor Cal Elite Morpheus - Jr Cd Lvl 5 (14) San Jose, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - SENIOR OPEN LEVEL 2
3:36:00 PM Power - Sr Open Lvl 2 (27) Northern, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - SENIOR OPEN LEVEL 3
3:40:00 PM Cheer Odyssey Cosmos - Sr Open Lvl 3 (19) Stockton,

ALL-STAR CHEER - SENIOR LEVEL 2
3:52:00 PM Cheer Odyssey Aeries - Sr Lvl 2 (22) Stockton, CA
ALL-STAR CHEER - SENIOR SMALL LEVEL 3
3:56:00 PM Cheer With A Twist - Sr Sm Lvl 3 (19) Fremont, CA
(i really liked them last year)

ALL-STAR CHEER - SENIOR SMALL LEVEL 4
4:53:00 PM Cheer Xplosion - Sr Sm Lvl 4 (20) Livermore, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - SENIOR SMALL LEVEL 5
5:05:00 PM Nor Cal Elite - Sr Sm Lvl 5 (18) San Jose, CA
ALL-STAR CHEER - SENIOR COED LEVEL 3
5:09:00 PM Nor Cal Elite - Sr Cd Lvl 3 (16) San Jose, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - SENIOR COED LEVEL 4
5:17:00 PM Las Vegas Elements Blaze - Sr Cd Lvl 4 (22) Las Vegas,

ALL-STAR CHEER - SR LTD COED LEVEL 5
5:25:00 PM Cheer Odyssey Rockets - Sr Ltd Cd Lvl 5 (22) Stockton, CA

ALL-STAR CHEER - OPEN LEVEL 6
5:33:00 PM Chico Cheer All Star Elements - Open Lvl 6 (15) Chico, CA

Date: Wed Nov 14 4:24 PM, 2007

What's teh difference between limted and unlimited?

Date: Wed Nov 14 4:28 PM, 2007

NCE has great baskets but I think they are less strong this year...less kids--They have a ton of cross-overs

OdysseyMom · Veteran Member

Anonymous wrote:

What's teh difference between limted and unlimited?

Level 5 Small Senior 10 - 18 yrs old No Males 5 - 20 members

Level 5 Large Senior 10 - 18 yrs old No Males 21 - 36 members

Level 5 Small Sr. Limited Coed 10 - 18 yrs old 1 - 4 Males 5 - 20 members

Level 5 Large Sr. Limited Coed 10 - 18 yrs old 1 - 4 Males 21 - 36 members

Level 5 Sr. Semi-Limited Coed 10 - 18 yrs old 5 - 12 Males 5 - 36 members

Level 5 Sr. Unlimited Coed 10 - 18 yrs old 5 or more Males 5 - 36 members

Tamara · cheergyms.com Master Poster

Anonymous wrote:

What's teh difference between limted and unlimited?

Limited = 1-4 boys
Unlimited = 5 or more boys

OdysseyMom · Veteran Member

But for Worlds these are the only divisions not including International

Senior Divisions Level 5:
Small Senior All Girl 10-18 years, no males, 5 to 20 members
Large Senior All Girl 10-18 years, no males, 21 to 36 members
Large Senior Limited Coed 10-18 years, 1 to 4 males, 5 to 36 members
Senior Unlimited Coed 10-18 years, 5 or more males, 5 to 36 members

Date: Wed Nov 14 5:55 PM, 2007

Personally, I think limited and unlimited is dumb for regionals because then you have a bunch of squads in different divisions competing against themselves..ya so a team may have 2 guys and another may have 12..but isn't it better having competition when we pay all this money?...for worlds or nationals they could split it, but come on...when there are only 3-4 teams?

Date: Thu Nov 15 3:47 PM, 2007

im excited for this competition...

some good competition in alot of the divisions.

COmomof2 · Senior Member

This looks like it's going to be a great competition weekend.

Can't wait to go!

Whos going to be there from the board?

The Mom · Newbie

COmomof2 wrote:

This looks like it's going to be a great competition weekend.

Can't wait to go!

Whos going to be there from the board?

ME!!