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Sounds like you go to this gym and your on here trying to pretend like you don't! Because we all know What looks good the outside may not be the case on the inside!

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i dont cheer at this gym, however i do cheer at a gym that is two hours away. Sure i live in so cal and we run into them at competitions every so often. If yu asked me about information on their program i would have nothing to tell you. I am very happy where i am at and the gym i go to only as 4 teams. We also dont have a million girl coaches, we only have one. I actually dont even know what competitions they will be attending ut i hope to come across them because all there teams are fun to watch. I am not pretending and if you really care that much i feel sorry for you. i would come on this board and defend any program that has been nice to ours in the past. It happens to be them this time.

When I first started seeing RC at local competitions I was somewhat impressed... That lasted for about 3 years. Then about 3 or 4 years ago in Vegas at the American Grand they started looking really messy and their routines were A BLUE HOT MESS.

I noticed Fierce come on to the scene and thought Hmmm. pretty good but they REALLY REALLY need to CLEAN. I wondered where they came from because they had all this RAW talent. So I started looking for their web site and by reading their guest book I was able to figure out that the owners and coaches had come from RC CLUB CHEER.
 
This is probably where the crap began. Unhappy talented coaches left RC to start their own program with some of RC'S KIDS and RC OWNERS and loyal RC'ERS felt betrayed.

So who is wrong here: The dreamers who wanted to start their own program.

Or The owners who felt betrayed ?

Nobody is wrong here. It is human nature to want to protect your own.

The only thing that should have been done was for both programs to delete their guestbooks. So coaches,parents, cheerleaders, and fans could not have a place to continue this unprofessional and damaging fued.  

I just went to the RC Club cheer site and its still up. If you use Jams spirit designs for sites you have to pay, so someone is still paying for that site to be up. Did they just close? RC Club Cheer is one of the original gyms and its sad to see they might close.

Sad to say this, but this answers the above person asking about loyalty. I feel you should leave gyms only if your pushed against a wall. Coaches, parents or athletes leave becasue they are unhappy, but happiness is a temporary emotion that sometimes changes through time. Sometimes I hate my gym, but overall I love it because I know were here for the right reasons. Starting your own thing is not as easy as you think, plus there is a right way to do things. You just wait, if you open up a gym, and coaches and kids leave because they feel everything is great somewhere else, then it does hurt. It is a business, but tied with personal emotions because your put so much into these kids/coaches and they leave. Almost makes you feel people are dishonest from the beginning. People are only happy if they get what they want and life isn't that way. You have to go through sacrifice and disappointment to understand what true happiness is all about.

Why is everyone talking about RC Club cheer, go take a look at Fierce All Stars guestbook, RC should be glad these coaches don't represent them

this has nothing to do with being rivals but does anybody think that there closing had anything to do with this ?

http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_7101113

it is on the protect our children page

NO! They were closed before that went down......I bumped into the owner months before that situation came up...She had stated that she was closing because the building that she was in had kept raising their rent and expenses.  The overhead was just too much.  She has three hip hop teams that she kept at another location...

Anonymous wrote:

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So the cheer teams are really gone?  She should've kept the cheer teams!!

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I can certainly understand why they would keep the hip hop teams and not the cheerleading teams.

1.  Facility - You can basically practice hip hop in any type of location.  You don't need special accomodations for hip hop.  You don't need high ceilings, mats, spring floor, tumbling equipment or the entire 42 x 54 floor foot print.

2.  Competition for dance members - maybe there is less of a battle for dance clientele in the local area.

3.  Overhead costs - a cheerleading business is expensive no doubt about it.  The next time you are in your gym start looking around to see all the "extras" that are needed to assist cheerleaders.  The spring floor, tumbling tracks, tumbling mats, jump ropes, the list goes on and on.  Now, think about if you were a business owner in debt.   You would need to sell off these items to at least break even and get back to a zero balance. 

The choice would be an easy one for me.

well well looks like OC MOM to save the day

Are RC and Fierce the All Star Teams in the Inland Empire? After looking at these two guestbooks I would not want my kids to cheer at either place.

Coaches if you are looking to open an All Star Gym sounds like there is a high demand for a new one is in Rancho Cucamonga in the Inland Empire.