silly kids

Date: Thu Sep 14 8:14 PM, 2006

silly kids

Date: Thu Sep 14 8:24 PM, 2006

I would really look to see how the coach is handling the situation. Have they tried to stop it or are they ignoring and hoping it will go away. Silly is good at times but not when others are dependent on you for there safety.

Date: Fri Sep 15 12:35 PM, 2006

The cure for that is UpDowns.... they stop by the second round. Guaranteed

Date: Sat Sep 16 12:26 PM, 2006

i HATE updowns. . . but yeah- i must admit, speaking from experience. it works, && if the meer fact that you have to do the updowns doesn't work, the respnose you get from your teamates, will make you stop.

Date: Sat Sep 16 1:43 PM, 2006

You need jeff to coach. I have never seen such a great coach, he keeps those girls in line and gets what needs to be done; done.

Date: Sat Sep 16 3:08 PM, 2006

I'm not going to say my name but if you know me you'll know this. If I have a kid who continully goofs off and doesn't want to take anything seriously. GET OUT OF MY HOUSE! "If you can't contribute to this team, theres the door!" I'm not a coach who likes to see some kids walk over others. Its a team and a lot of the time some kids feel its an after school activity and not a sport. So if you can't take it seriously then this is not for you and the door is right there.

Date: Sat Sep 16 4:51 PM, 2006

That's a terrible thing to say. Threatening them to GET OUT if you don't follow the rules isn't the way to go. What if your mom did that to you everytime you didn't listen? (oh wait, maybes she did.) But that's not the answer. That doesn't teach anyone anything. You have to LEARN to behave. Updowns are a much better response. There's a consequence for your behavior. The threat, get out, doesn't teach a thing. It just teaches and showcases YOUR inability to handle the situation. Sorry. I'm sure you'll be upset over this especailly since you've used this tactic. But that's all it is, a tactic. TEACH them my young grasshopper. Threats only go so far.....

-Child Bahaviorist

Date: Sat Sep 16 9:20 PM, 2006

Oh, I guess I am a bad parent because i agree with the coach who sends them out. It drives me craxy when the kids are acting like little monsters, it takes away time from the other kids who are there to learn and improve. While I do agree that coaches are there to teach.... really should they have to teach kids how to behave? I think as a parent, it is my job to teach good behavior.
There is a time and place for everything.... on the mat... you better work~ this is cheer not nanny 911.

Date: Sat Sep 16 9:27 PM, 2006

coach who will not take it wrote:

I'm not going to say my name but if you know me you'll know this. If I have a kid who continully goofs off and doesn't want to take anything seriously. GET OUT OF MY HOUSE! "If you can't contribute to this team, theres the door!" I'm not a coach who likes to see some kids walk over others. Its a team and a lot of the time some kids feel its an after school activity and not a sport. So if you can't take it seriously then this is not for you and the door is right there.

If you are who I think you are.... I don't know HOW you do it... I would have pulled out all of my hair by now!!! THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK YOU!

Date: Sat Sep 16 11:54 PM, 2006

Yes back again. I'm not threatening the kids at all. I'm just tell them if they can't work in my house then its time for you to leave. My parents have no problem with it and they respect it. My kids love me and know I'm doing it for them. NONE of my kids feel threatened. Okay, how about this, its okay for a football coach to do it but not a cheer coach? If I have kids who are wasting my time I will, with no hesitation tell them they need to leave. I'm sorry you feel this way but I'VE NEVER THREATENED MY KIDS. This is allstar cheerleading!

IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN!

Date: Sun Sep 17 12:42 AM, 2006

THe coach is not suppose to be teaching the child manners-that is your job! Coaches teach them cheer stuff.

Date: Sun Sep 17 8:02 AM, 2006

To coach, I can completely understand your point of view. But your tone and the words you use "get out of my HOUSE?" is a bit scary, and frankly comes across as somewhat immature for a coach. I'm thinking of the coaches my children have had over the years, and the ones who are respected would never say something like that (including football coaches we have had over the years). They would take the children aside, along with the parents, and calmly tell them that they have a choice -- start taking the sport seriously (no more goofing off), or leave. Simple as that, and I believe it can be said just that calmly and to the point.

Date: Sun Sep 17 8:55 AM, 2006

Well I think it all depends. If you are dealing with little kids then yes that's the way to go. The older kids however, peope on senior teams, should be told work or leave my house. Think of a job that these kids are getting ready to work at if they don't already work. They get a job somewhere and they goof off. The owner is not going to take you off to the side and say you have two choices. They are just going to say you're fired(get out of my house). So for the senior kids I would go with coach. With the little kids I would go with scary

Date: Sun Sep 17 10:30 AM, 2006

Actually in the workforce that is exactly how it works. You are taken aside (spoken to) if your job performance is poor, and your choice is to improve or be fired. Regarding cheer, the suggestion was to have the parent(s) there, and I think that's the way to go, regardless of whether you are dealing with youth or seniors. You can't simply out of the blue decide that a child has gone too far, therefore they must leave and never come back. You have to give them the chance to improve their behavior, and that means giving them the two choices mentioned. Just my opinion, but to me it makes perfect sense, and nobody is to blame because the choice was theirs.

Date: Sun Sep 17 11:35 AM, 2006

With my younger kids, I would never tell them something like that. They are kids and that's what kids do. Esp. if they're 4-8 years old. As for my older kids, I don't pull them aside and say that. I will say it in front of their team. Not to the point of "I HATE YOU!" I'll say it as if I'm serious and you need to get serious. You all have to remember cheer is a dangerous sport and I don't want one of my other kids hurting themselves because someones head is off a lah lah land. I'm honestly not trying to convince everyone to do this but I'm just telling you what I do. As for a football coach not getting in their football players faces...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Where have you been? My brother was slammed all the time when his head wasn't in the game. It's a sport. The only time I pull my kids to the side is when it gets serious. At that point, I talk to them about their behavior and how we can improve it.

Date: Sun Sep 17 11:54 AM, 2006

Football coaches slam kids all the time, but they don't say "get out of my house" and force them to leave??? Big difference. Nobody said they don't get in kids faces, but what you're talking about is completely different. If you're going to kick someone off a cheer team because they're misbehaving, you need to let them know the consequence of their actions beforehand so they have a chance to make some changes; that's all I'm saying. If you don't get the parents involved before you kick them off, believe me, they will be involved after you do so. Seems like you would want to avoid the ugliness by letting them know they have been warned. There really are civil ways of dealing with these situations, it is done all the time.

Date: Sun Sep 17 12:20 PM, 2006

By me saying "get out of my house" doesn't mean I'm kicking them off the team. I say If you can't contribute to this team, theres the door! It's there choice, if they want to stay, then they'll work. If they don't want to stay, thats fine with me! I have many other kids who want to work and I have time for only that. Like said by others, I don't teach behavior. I've never kick any kid off my teams.
It's funny how many people assume that I'm threatening, getting in their face and kicking them off the team. Please carefully read my posts because I'm no saying any of that. If the kids just goof off because their not interested, then go find a sport or activity you're interested in.

A lot of coaches have different ways to deal with behaviors they are not okay with. I'll repeat again, cheer is a VERY dangerous sport and there is not a lot of room for just goofing off. Kids can have fun but when it is time to get it together, everyone needs to focus.

Date: Sun Sep 17 12:31 PM, 2006

I agree 100%. If a kid wants goof-off, screw-around cheer, they can go do rec cheer classes or Pop Warner or cheer at their school. It's not appropriate for them to waste MY time, their TEAMMATES' time, or their PARENTS' time (and $$$) to participate in an expensive, highly-competitive, dangerous sport if their head is not in the game.

Date: Sun Sep 17 1:25 PM, 2006

Amazing how constructive criticism is bounced around as an attack. Instead of taking it and thinking about it, people feel the need to react so negatively. Thinking about your actions, listening to those around you (good and bad) then ACTING accordingly is a mature response. Becoming defensive is an immature REaction.

If one is going to coach kids, one must be older. Not in age but in attitude. Comparisons won't help the situation much if the person getting the constructive criticism isn't getting the hint in the first place.

No attack here, just some insight. Take a deep breath, THINK about your response. THEN type away.

Date: Sun Sep 17 7:41 PM, 2006

This is to coach, I don't understand what you mean by you show them the door but you don't kick them off teams if they misbehave. What is the point asking them to leave practices if you don't intend to kick them off teams? Doesn't that leave some holes that need filling at your practices? It seems unfair to the others, I must be missing something here.

I have to agree with Terrible. I think some constructive criticism and some good ideas have been mentioned, and it's unfortunate they are not being heard or considered. What a shame.