At what point does a parent and cheerleader give up on a gym that is going downhill. Our kids love each other, love the director/owner but the gym is going down and FAST. Bills aren't being paid, (even the phones were shut off at one point) competitions are being changed because they are being paid for, we are having to shell out more money, coaches are dropping like flies, girls have alredy left and some mid year, etc....
There are more gyms in our area, with one having already gotten a lot of our kids because (rumor) it is better run and has a brand new HUGE facility. My daughter loves her friends and the owner here. But I see red flags EVERYWHERE.
At what point do I take her to the other gym where most are going to anyway and all that do are IN LOVE with it.
The first thing I would look at is integrity...of the gym/coach/and owner where you are and where you might want to go.
Then I would look at “why” the people are leaving. Are people abandoning the gym and the current owner? How do you know they won’t do the same thing again at the place they are going to? If times get rough, are they just going to up and leave again?
If you are going to make a switch that will be better for your daughter, you, and your pocket book, maybe you shouldn’t follow those that are leaving and look at other options. Just because everyone is going there, or because it is a bright new shiny gym, doesn’t mean it is the best option.
A Mom wrote: The first thing I would look at is integrity...of the gym/coach/and owner where you are and where you might want to go.
Then I would look at “why” the people are leaving. Are people abandoning the gym and the current owner? How do you know they won’t do the same thing again at the place they are going to? If times get rough, are they just going to up and leave again?
I agree. While I would not want to go down on a sinking ship, this year our gym has been flooded with "new transfers'. I am happy that our gym is doing so well that others are taking notice, but I am not to thrilled to listen to all of them trash their old gyms. It just makes me wonder how loyal they will be to our gym. I would say talk with your child, how does she/he feel, then go where your heart tells you to go. You sound like a truly loyal Mom, any gym would be lucky to have you guys, you will be welcomed with open arms. You might even find a new cheer family. Good Luck
Very Curious, I would think about the ones who have left and have found a gym you say they are in love with. Do you value their opinion? If they all seem to be happy there, they can't all be mistaken, right? We have left a gym in the past, and it was the best thing we ever did. We are very happy where we are now. Just another thing to consider.
Is the owner of the current gym you are at aware that an exodus is in there future? I know that if it were me I would love a chance to fix the problems you are having with said gym. If the problems are finacial and come from tuition not being paid in a timely manner than that can be worked on but if the bill paying is a problem on her part than I would possibly look for a new gym....sad to hear of the problems....some people are great coaches and not great business minded people... I feel lucky to have a great support system.
Thanks for all of the input. You guys/gals are awsome. Yes the owner is aware and apparently has had problems with other gyms she was invloved with in the past. So even though we saw the red flags, we chose to ignore them. The other "shiney new gym" actually has a good reputation, not just by what the "movers" have said but by their track record. So I am so torn. I want to be the loyal mom and do the right thing, but I also want to do the right thing by my child who puts in so many hours. Not to mention my pocket book.
Yikes.... I guess I know the answer to this one but I am just having a tough time with it. My kids don't want to move but yu can't totally ignore the signs right in front of your face, can you....
I think the saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" really applies here. Unless you get some kind of guarantee the problems will be fixed this upcoming season, as painful as it might be it's probably time to leave. When we look at a gym, we think in terms of long-term because we don't want to gym hop. We have been very fortunate and have found a place that we'll be at for years down the road.
Maybe if you talk to the owner, letting him/her know exactly where you stand and what you expect this upcoming season, that might give them a chance to clean up their act. But really, you need some kind of guarantee, or a way out if you see things are not improving.
Regarding the last post asking who has the huge facility, I have a thought on this. The beauty of posting on the anonymous board is that you can voice out your concerns without others knowing which specific gyms you're referring to. It's a way to be completely honest without hurting others, since they don't know who you're talking about. If you mention the facility everyone is going to, it won't be hard for others to figure out where they're coming from, I'm guessing, especially if it's in Northern CA. If it were me, I wouldn't answer that question unless I thought it would help the situation.
More Thoughts wrote: If you mention the facility everyone is going to, it won't be hard for others to figure out where they're coming from, I'm guessing, especially if it's in Northern CA. If it were me, I wouldn't answer that question unless I thought it would help the situation.
Sorry, didn't mean to hurt anybody. I didn't ask the Mom for her name, just curious which Gym got a new HUGE facility.
Let me just clarify that it is NOT located in Northern California. Sorry if I led anyone on to believe it is in relation to the NorCal goings on. We are quite a ways away from Nor Cal. And even though I never even THOUGHT you were even trying to hurt anybody WHOS GOT THE HUGE FACILITY, thank you for the apology. Most wouldn't care.
We are quite south........... now if you figure it out, then good for you. Most down here should be able to if they are in the "neighborhood." And believe me, it won't be a shocker. This place has been going down for a while now. I just feel bad. And I don't want to hurt anyone either.
And I have no idea who those two owners are either. Does that put anyone at ease? I hope so.
And to More Thoughts, I am happy for you that you have found a place to call home. I am hoping we will too.
I understand how you feel facing such a huge dilemea. I would try and talk to the owner and hopefully you will get an honest answer. My concern would be if they are already having financial issues and some people have already left the gym, will the situation get worse. Is the gym able to make it through an entire season is the biggest question to ask your owner. It would be very sad to have your gym close down mid season and then have to your daughter sit out because you were trying to be loyal to them.
I think I know who you are talking about. And I am sorry you are involved in this. I have visited OC All Stars myself and their new gym is AWSOME. It's huge. If I am correct, they didn't make the 3 floors seperate but made 1 and the other two are connected so you have a HUGE one for open gyms and advanced tumbling practices. I would really look into going there. I hear it's run super well. Rumor is they hired new coaches this year from all over the country too.
And if I am wrong, please do what's best for your child even if he/she doesn't know what it is just yet.
We had Senior Coed, Youth Silver with one boy and Mini Blue with two boys last year. This year there will be more.... If you go to the site and click on PHOTOS up top, u can see everyone, including our GUYS.
Going back to the topic..... My daughter is considering switching gyms this next season... We love our current coaches, but think that perhaps my daughter has learned all she can from them and needs to move on to another gym to challenge her. She is going to attend different tryouts and base some of her decision on who shows up at each, what kind of cheer commitment they have, and what type of coaching, and then also the financial commitment. Are you getting your moneys worth. always a thing to consider. we will be loaded with guilt if we change gyms... but it might be whats best for my daughter...
to the last post, i strongly agree with you. you should do what is best for your child. No matter what people may say to her next year, they will at some point get over it. Like i always say, ITS JUST CHEERLEADING!