Jamz Nationals

Date: Mon Feb 27 3:21 PM, 2006

Jamz Nationals

Date: Mon Feb 27 3:24 PM, 2006

What were they thinking of ending Friday at 4 and ending Saturday past midnight??? Sounds like JAMZ isn't doing much thinking this season....

Date: Mon Feb 27 3:24 PM, 2006

Oh. I forgot about SBE. Sorry. Well, I hope somebody like SBE or CF gets the bid and not some scrub team that won by default. CA is going, but they already have a paid bid)

Date: Mon Feb 27 3:44 PM, 2006

The small and large senior at that competition have great teams why can't they be eligable. How embarrasing for them to send a cali team that is not up to par

Date: Mon Feb 27 4:11 PM, 2006

why would they chose to exclude small coed? Or decide that only large coed should be eligible for the paid bid? Can anyone shed some light on this?

Date: Mon Feb 27 4:20 PM, 2006

large coed is a competitive division. just not the most. and there is not a huge drop in scores from lg coed to small coed. is that whatu wer talkin about

Date: Mon Feb 27 4:21 PM, 2006

Clarification please wrote:

Oh. I forgot about SBE. Sorry. Well, I hope somebody like SBE or CF gets the bid and not some scrub team that won by default. CA is going, but they already have a paid bid)

Please name a "scrub" team that may get this bid by default. At GSSA, just to get into the Super Six will be tough enough as it is. Then to win it...well, I'm not sure a "scrub" team can do that.

As for Jamz, I'm guessing you're not really calling Pyramids, Motions, Clovis Elite or Oak Ridge a "scrub" team.

Nelson

Date: Mon Feb 27 5:25 PM, 2006

Yes it sounds like they are calling Pyramids, Motions, etc. "scrubs" I guess that's their opinion. It would be nice if one of these teams proved them wrong!!!

Date: Mon Feb 27 5:29 PM, 2006

Nelson wrote:

Clarification please wrote:
Oh. I forgot about SBE. Sorry. Well, I hope somebody like SBE or CF gets the bid and not some scrub team that won by default. CA is going, but they already have a paid bid)

Please name a "scrub" team that may get this bid by default. At GSSA, just to get into the Super Six will be tough enough as it is. Then to win it...well, I'm not sure a "scrub" team can do that.

As for Jamz, I'm guessing you're not really calling Pyramids, Motions, Clovis Elite or Oak Ridge a "scrub" team.

Nelson

My post was not referring to GSSA. There will be some amazing teams competing for that bid, and whoever wins it will truly have earned it. My reference was to the fact that only large coed can go for the bid at Jamz. Of the teams that you named, the only one I've seen this year is Clovis Elite. Sorry, but I don't think they are anywhere near the level of CA allstars or the other large coed teams they will encounter at Worlds. As for the other teams you've mentioned, haven't seen them, can't comment on them. All I know, is "I" haven't seen any large coed teams from the west coast who are even remotely at the same level with CA (except for SBE and for CF and Mavericks who occasionally alter one of their other teams to compete large coed 5) As far as the teams that competed in large coed division at USA, I'm sorry, but CA could have dropped and had tumbling errors and still end up on top in that division. The others were not up to their level. And I never said there was a drop in scores from large to small coed, (CF has won grand champion over CA twice this year and I THINK Mavericks scored higher than CA at USA). I said the drop was in large coed from CA to the next large coed team. Anyway, I'm not meaning to bash Pyramids, Motions or Oak Ridge, like I've said, I've never seen them. My statement was and still is, I hope some "scrub" team doesn't get the bid, for lack of anyone decent being in the running for it. I haven't seen a lineup, have no idea who will be there besides Ca.

Date: Mon Feb 27 5:36 PM, 2006

??? wrote:

Yes it sounds like they are calling Pyramids, Motions, etc. "scrubs" I guess that's their opinion. It would be nice if one of these teams proved them wrong!!!

See, this is how stuff gets started. Nobody said Pyramids or Motions were scrub teams. I will repeat (1) I have no idea is on the lineup. (2) I haven't seen any of those teams this season or even last season. I have no idea how they stack up. Saying I hope a scrub team doesn't get the bid, does not mean I'm calling any gym in particular a scrub team. But whether you want to admit it or not, scrub teams do exist.

Date: Mon Feb 27 6:24 PM, 2006

No....I don't want no scrubs!!!
A scrub is a team that gets no Bids from me!!!
Hangin' from the passenger's side
of the best friend's ride...
Tryin' to holler at me!!!

Scrubs....The Quest for Worlds!!!

Date: Mon Feb 27 6:39 PM, 2006

To TLC... great way to lighten up!!! Funny stuff!!!

Date: Mon Feb 27 7:37 PM, 2006

TLC wrote:

No....I don't want no scrubs!!!
A scrub is a team that gets no Bids from me!!!
Hangin' from the passenger's side
of the best friend's ride...
Tryin' to holler at me!!!

Scrubs....The Quest for Worlds!!!

LOL!!!

Date: Mon Feb 27 8:40 PM, 2006

TLC wrote:

No....I don't want no scrubs!!!
A scrub is a team that gets no Bids from me!!!
Hangin' from the passenger's side
of the best friend's ride...
Tryin' to holler at me!!!

Scrubs....The Quest for Worlds!!!

Hey - that's my JAM!!!

Date: Mon Feb 27 9:11 PM, 2006

I don't want no scrubs...... LOL

Date: Mon Feb 27 9:13 PM, 2006

Thats so funny!! WHoever put that is a genius!!! LOL!!! What about those scrubs with teddy bears and airplanes!! you dont want those?!?!

Date: Mon Feb 27 9:34 PM, 2006

What bothers me is that they're restricting the paid bid to the large coed division. Especially since CA will most likely win the division so the PAID bid will be given to the second place team. Does that make sense?!? What if there are some very good teams in the all girl or small coed divisions who win their divisions with high scores but instead of getting a paid bid the second place team of large coed recieves it. Of course when the rules were made I'm sure that it wasn't made to work out this way, I'm just curious what the reason would be to tie down the full paid bid to one division? I understand how at some of the larger competitions they are giving paid bids to the winners of each division and then doing the rest by highest points, but what about when there is only one full paid bid? Does it make sense to tie it down to one division or should it be like GSSA with a chance for any of the level 5 teams to take it?

Date: Mon Feb 27 9:40 PM, 2006

I just read how they will determine who gets the bid. Each team will compete twice. Scores will not be averaged. They will use your highest score of the two. That's really different. Are there any other companies that do this? I've seen the averaging of the 2. And the wipeout of prelims scores with clean slate for finals. But never anything like that. I wonder how things would have turned out at USA if they did that. 2 teams that didn't do so well on day 1, rocked on day 2. I personally think I like the averaging of scores or the way Jamz does it better than the clean slate thing, where only your second day score counts. The averaging of scores is good, because it forces you to be consistant. The pick the high score thing is good too, because it evens out the playing field to allow for a bad day. If 2 teams each had one bad day and one good day, why should the team that had the bad day on day 2 be penalized more harshly than the team that had the bad day on the 1st day? And to cheer nazi...what was racist about the song?

Date: Mon Feb 27 9:48 PM, 2006

That has been my question! Why tie the bid down to large coed? WHO says they are always the best, or highest score? Especially now with CA lg coed with a paid bid...that leaves those 4 lg coed teams with the only shot at the paid bid. What about small coed? Those guys aren't even in the mix! And for the late hours....yes those 5 teams get to perform twice...but not the rest of the bids contendors. Most gyms are bringing several levels..mini to senior 5..how are they supposed to hang from 6am to midnight and then give the performance of their lives to get that BID? I sure don't get it.

I hope we can get a response from Jamz? Sounds like lot's of people have some concerns.

Good luck to all...it will be a great comp none-the-less!

Date: Mon Feb 27 10:36 PM, 2006

Agreeing with you guys, it makes no sense for Jamz to send the 2nd place team to represent them (should CA All-Stars win) when you have so much talent elsewhere in other level 5 divisions.

Another point.. some teams have been going to Jamz for years, so personally, I hope someone who has supported Jamz along the way (meaning they've been going to their Nationals for years now) wins the bid, instead of teams that are suddenly showing up just for the free bid. I know that Clovis Elite is one of those teams that has been attending and entertaining the crowd for a while now. They have a good team this year, I hope they do well.

One final point.. I understand why competitions are offering these free bids, but many organizations don't have the particular level 5 teams they're rewarding, yet they have to sit through longer competition days since these teams are performing twice, and higher fees all around to support it all. It's not like the teams winning the bids are going to the olympics representing our country, lol. They're going for their own rewards. Maybe someone can clear that part up for the rest of us... where does the money to pay for these bids come from? Sorry if that's already been mentioned. Just trying to understand it all.