Can someone tell me what criteria Cheersport used to divided the Small Sr Advanced and Sr. 4 Coed Large Advanced into 2 separate divisions? I don't see anything on their website that explains.
Senior Small Advanced I (World Bid Qualifier) Senior Small Advanced II
Sr. 4 Coed Large Advanced I (World Bid Qualifier) Sr. 4 Coed Large Advanced II
Yes, I got that. But how did they decide which Small Sr teams weren't going to be allowed to go for a Worlds bid! I would assume that some of those teams now placed in Small Sr Advanced II are not very happy right now.
Well, the USASF sets the divisions at the beginning of the year. Cheersport just divides up their divisions in greater detail, but you know going in what the Worlds division is.
Okay, I don't think people are understanding my question.
Cheersport now has two Small Sr Advanced divisions and they have deemed one of them a Worlds qualifier and the other is not. What is different in these two divisions that are BOTH called Small Sr Advanced.
It appears by the other divisions they split, that it is by number of people on the team. So, is the Small Sr Advanced II have less than 20 girls? So the only way you can be in Small Sr Advanced I (Worlds Qualifer) is to have exactly 20 girls? I'm just trying to understand what the criterea was for breaking up the division.
Last year, Cheersport had a division for Small Senior and Small Senior Open. Open means 12th and under, small senior was 8-12th grade. That might be the same thing they did this year.
Just passing through but I can answer your question.
We are blessed to have a large competition and some divisions originally had over 20 teams in them. We decided for any number of reasons to split any division over 20 teams although it means we give out more first place awards (including jackets). Although it costs us some money, we think it is the right thing to do. We have tremendous confidence in our judging systems and our judges but it is hard for any judging panel to get it right for all the teams with more than 20 teams in a division. We also don't like the sound of "in thirty eighth place" during the awards ceremony. This year we split 13 divisions because we think it is the right thing for the athletes competing.
Now to your Worlds Bid Division question. In that case, we contacted every team in each of those divisions and let them decide which division they would like to be in based on what they thought was best for their teams.
I hope this answers your question and I hope to see you in Atlanta.
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to this question. Most of us assume that if you are going to a competition that is offering Worlds bids that you would want to stay in that division. It is very interesting that there were actually teams that chose not to compete for a bid and maybe have a better chance at a first place position in a smaller division.
Worlds Watcher, that was exactly our reasoning for deciding to not go into a category to win a worlds bid. We aren't quite there yet and have to spend A LOT of money to go, so why not just experience the competition, enjoy ourselves and give the girls a chance at a 1st place win??? We will be there one day, but today? No. Not quite yet.
At CheerSport Motions and Pyramids are not in the Worlds division. Cheersport broke up the Large Coed Division and created a Coed 5-12, which means if you have 5-12 males on the team you are no longer eligible for the Coed 5 Worlds division. I would assume then that the Coed 5 Worlds division really is now defined as 13+ males on the team. I don't believe any of these teams with 5-12 males were given a choice to go into the Coed 5 Worlds division. But if you look at the teams that have been at Worlds in the Large Coed division they usually have at least 12 guys and usually more guys on the team than girls. If you have 6 guys it is really hard to compete against these larger male dominated teams (in my opinion).
Worlds Watcher, If youve seen worlds a few coed teams with like 1-3 guys finished better than some really good teams that had more guys that girls. I think it was Pro cheer not last year but the year before last that did really well I think they got 2nd to miami elite. im not for sure. but yea there are a few teams with mosly gurls that can compete.
It was Spirit of Texas small coed and they only fell short of 1st place by 4 points, to Miami Elite which had many guys. That shows how good Spirit of Texas is and how their program is just overall one of the best in the country.
Small coed teams can be better. at Spirit Sports this weekend, the grand champion was Cheer Force, they are small coed and rocked the house apparently. I wasnt there but got word from others, and some of the best from cali were there, champion, california all stars, west coast mavericks...