2011-2012 Rules

1CHEERMOM · Veteran Member

2011-2012 Rules

JustALurker · Member

Les Stella's twitter said that the Age Grid would hopefully be released today, but the rules won't be until the beginning of April...

1CHEERMOM · Veteran Member

The USASF has announced cheer age grid changes for the 2011-2012 competition season. The new cheer age grid outlines the divisions, age guidelines, team sizes and crossover restrictions that are relevant to cheer teams for the upcoming season.

For the full details on the release, along with the 2011-2012 Cheer Age Grid please click here USASF Cheer Age Grid News

cheergirl622 · GURU

age grid is up
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//News/USASF_CheerAgeGrid_NACCCslate_11-12.pdf

luvs2cheer · Veteran Member

This doesn't have to do with the rules but it does with next season..... a friend of mine is friends with john(power gym owner) on facebook and it said he just checked into POWER placerville....... when did they get a placerville gym I'm aware of the new fresno gym but placerville?? Can anyone confirm?

John Hebert · Senior Member

WOW... A simple Facebook check-in has made it to the boards...LOL

There is NO POWER Placerville. I was simply with Karen (Western Regional Director for the USASF) in Placerville working on USASF items. We have been doing so much work for the USASF lately that I felt as if it was another home, thus POWER Placerville.

I guess it is a good lesson for everyone the effects of social media and the impact on our industry...Please Use Wisely...

Cheers
JOHN

torycf · Veteran Member

cheergirl622 wrote:

age grid is up
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//News/USASF_CheerAgeGrid_NACCCslate_11-12.pdf

This new grid really affects teams like Premier All Male (love them!) since they now can only have a maximum of 12 males...dislike!

Fierce Coach · GURU

The only thing I am truly unhappy with is the "baby steps" approach to crossovers. Allowing an athlete to compete on one team and crossover to 2 other teams within their gym, is a still a little too lenient IMO.

Boo.

RiptideAllStars · Veteran Member

I know it wasn't voted through, but I would have LOVED the level 4.2 international division (14 and over) - I coulda filled up that team in about 4 seconds flat.

luvs2cheer · Veteran Member

I agree there is so many cheerleaders out there who age out and can not be on an international team because they don't have the level 5 skills. Its truly heartbreaking to see these boys and girls cheerleading careers end because they don't have the skills.

cupcake · Member

agreed !

SuzyB · Veteran Member

Fierce Coach wrote:

The only thing I am truly unhappy with is the "baby steps" approach to crossovers. Allowing an athlete to compete on one team and crossover to 2 other teams within their gym, is a still a little too lenient IMO.

Boo.

COMPLETELY AGREE! I don't know many who compete on 4 teams now so making 3 the limit doesn't seem like it will impact many.

Fierce Coach · GURU

Above.... Exactly. I think they should have kept the percentage rule. 5 athletes per small team can crossover and 8 per large team. that would definitely impact large gyms who crossover tons of athletes.

SuzyB · Veteran Member

Fierce Coach wrote:

Above.... Exactly. I think they should have kept the percentage rule. 5 athletes per small team can crossover and 8 per large team. that would definitely impact large gyms who crossover tons of athletes.

That would have been ideal. That makes so much sense. Is that a rule at some comps?

MrCommentary · Veteran Member

Fierce Coach wrote:

Above.... Exactly. I think they should have kept the percentage rule. 5 athletes per small team can crossover and 8 per large team. that would definitely impact large gyms who crossover tons of athletes.

I agree and I think rules should be stricter as to what team you can crossover to. I hate seeing a level 5 athlete go out there and do fulls and other level 5 skills, then see them come out and perform on a level 2 team as well. I just don't think it's fair and honestly if you're a level 5 or even level 4 athlete, why would you want to go down to a level 2 team where you're obviously too advanced to be on? That's just my opinion...not trying to start a big debate...just saying how I feel and I have heard others feel the same way as I do.

UCheermama · Veteran Member

SuzyB wrote:
Fierce Coach wrote:

The only thing I am truly unhappy with is the "baby steps" approach to crossovers. Allowing an athlete to compete on one team and crossover to 2 other teams within their gym, is a still a little too lenient IMO.

Boo.

COMPLETELY AGREE! I don't know many who compete on 4 teams now so making 3 the limit doesn't seem like it will impact many.

Sadly there are teams that will put kids on four teams. I know of one that has several girls quadrue teaming. If it ddnt happen they wouldn't have to make rules addressing it. But I agree with fierce coach....the rues should be more strict.

Coach Amy G · Member

I've personally always wondered why the cross competitor thing has caused such an uproar. I personally dont mind it, especially since the level 4 or 5 cheerleader can only do level 2 skills when competing with a level 2 team. It just helps me to step my game up as a coach. =) We have kids in our program that cross over to a few teams and they love it, and I support their decision to cross compete as long as I feel they can mentally and physicially handle it.

POSITIVElycheer · Senior Member

Coach Amy G wrote:

I've personally always wondered why the cross competitor thing has caused such an uproar. I personally dont mind it, especially since the level 4 or 5 cheerleader can only do level 2 skills when competing with a level 2 team. It just helps me to step my game up as a coach. =) We have kids in our program that cross over to a few teams and they love it, and I support their decision to cross compete as long as I feel they can mentally and physicially handle it.

Because the quality of a level 5 doing level 2 skills is fair superior than a true level 2 doing level 2 skills. When half the team crosses down from a higher level a true lower level team is at an extreme disadvantage.

It is very discouraging for the lower levels to lose all year to a team of cross competitors. It is extremely obvious when your in warm ups warming up your bhs or tuck and the team you are competing against is warming up their fulls and standing tucks.

J.J · Veteran Member

POSITIVElycheer wrote:

Coach Amy G wrote:

I've personally always wondered why the cross competitor thing has caused such an uproar. I personally dont mind it, especially since the level 4 or 5 cheerleader can only do level 2 skills when competing with a level 2 team. It just helps me to step my game up as a coach. =) We have kids in our program that cross over to a few teams and they love it, and I support their decision to cross compete as long as I feel they can mentally and physicially handle it.

Because the quality of a level 5 doing level 2 skills is fair superior than a true level 2 doing level 2 skills. When half the team crosses down from a higher level a true lower level team is at an extreme disadvantage.

It is very discouraging for the lower levels to lose all year to a team of cross competitors. It is extremely obvious when your in warm ups warming up your bhs or tuck and the team you are competing against is warming up their fulls and standing tucks.

Agreed, I see a huge difference in level 4 or 5 cheerleaders crossing over to lower level two teams. I am glad it is being addressed. Same for coed at the level 2 teams. Nice to see they will have a coed division.

SuzyB · Veteran Member

I really don't know of another sport where you can crossover like cheer (maybe why it isn't classified as a sport?) In gymnastics, you compete at one level, that is a level 9 gymnast doesn't decide to compete at level 4 to win the competition. I think kids like to cross because they get to be out there or more than 2 and half minutes, but when people cross on four teams I'm sure there is more risk to injury because of fatigue.