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Too Legit to QUIT?


Hello cheer boarders and moderators!  No way am I new to message boards but, i'm brand new poster on this site and im looking for some advice from anyone. I would appreciate COACHES to respond however, I just want some opinions on what to do when someone you know is in a pickle. Cheer pickles seem to be the worst so here's the rock and a hard place:

owners of different gyms trying to make an honest cheer business can't seem to work out their differences. 

nasty rumors have started going publicly and gym A proceeds to continually defame the character of gym B owner and associates of gym B. Keeping in mind there is a thin line that must not be crossed, gym B takes the high road and decides not to respond to name calling which they have been subjected to for sometime via YouTube and MySpace.

What to do coaches?! Let me know on both sides of the fence what you think.  The predicament is not knowing what to do with the defamers all-stars that seem to be fighting lose-lose battle for both gyms.

Thanks ahead of time.



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If it's truly defamation, then sue them.

If it's just trash talk, then take the high road and ignore them.

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legal action with lawyers is expensive and time consuming. it is a possibility. defamation is so touchy, isn't it?

where is the line drawn between trashing someone and defaming them? legal action seems harsh when thinking about the kids. afterall, that's who is important right? they may lose all respect for the coaches who they look up to.

its become uglier and uglier and i don't know what to tell the derfamers to make them stop.


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wow stumble. over here at Crush we can lend you an ear! i thought i would express my thoughts on you're "pickle".

I'm not particularly sure where you are from but here in the bay area we have experienced this behavior with owners of gyms. yes, to the point of absurdity to prove an unknown point. Whether or not you are in business to do business or you do it because it's what you love, you are always going to have competitors who show their true colors when faced with adversity.

however, it sounds like a regular bully to me. they like getting reactions out of people and if you talk back they just keep messing with you. most of the time they look foolish and the other party does more by letting the bully embarrass themselves.

now the definition of Slander involves verbal derogatory statements, while libel involves written ones. In a court of law, the plaintiff pursuing the lawsuit would charge defamation of character to cover any form of false or damaging allegations.

think of it this way, at least your new equipment has not been vandalized like ours was last summer. A sour competitor can definitely ruin your day but, cannot CRUSH the soul of a team. In any case, legal actions should not be a question when something as harsh as vandalism has occurred.


hope puts a different perspective on things.
 


-- Edited by CACrushOwner at 15:20, 2009-02-17

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im sure you did not deserve that. that's pretty sad when someone stoops so low... i do however have to deal with past criminal/irrational woman and i wouldn't put it past her. hmm 

i will continue to stay docile and let my kids know they are more mature than these defamers. ur right, all they want is to take problems to another level which will prove nothing in the end. 
 
i have to stop my whole deal just cuz it's like...do you know who those people are!? i can't imagine a leader figure such as a COACH teaching their kids that that is the way to handle your alls differences. THESE ARE COACHES right?! probably the worst choice out of all the options! eeek...i wonder though.

gotta watch out for those bay area coaches i guess.



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There is a saying (and pardon me for getting it wrong here, but the message is the same):

Never argue with an idiot.  They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. 




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Nelson... You most definitly always have some awesome quotes!!! That one definitly just made me laugh!!!

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sounds to me like stumbleisme is from CA Crush and they are just trying to make themselves look good and make people feel sorry for them

-- Edited by AlexInWonderland at 09:43, 2009-02-18

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thanks for the words of wisdom nelson! that made me laugh too.

as for alexinwonderland, since you obviously know what's going on you could understand why people could feel that way. but, if i could tell you what we have to deal on a regular basis, i'm sure you could tell me whether or not you feel sorry. we don't know who stumbleisme is but, helping their situation was most likely the reason why they posted and i think we made an effort.

you are always entitled to your opinion so we'll leave it at that.



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Nelson wrote:

There is a saying (and pardon me for getting it wrong here, but the message is the same):

Never argue with an idiot.  They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. 



BWAHAAAAA! That is PRICELESS!!!

 



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